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Acacia Identification

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supernatural

supernatural

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Hey guys,

I'm needing some help to ID some Acacia trees. The ones growing all around me i'm pretty sure are not maidenii, obtusifolia or longifolia, but hoping someone can prove me wrong!

1. this is growing along the coastline in northern NSW -
AcaciaNSW1.jpg


1.b. tried to get a better close up...
AcaciaNSW2.jpg



and.. not sure if this QLD one is different to the NSW one,..

2. This is growing all over southern brisbane / northern gold coast in QLD -

AcaciaTreeQLDcloseup.jpg


2.b. and here's one of the whole tree... (sorry it's sideways)
AcaciaTreeQLD1.jpg


Does anyone know what these species of Acacia are? Also if I need to keep looking further, what to look for, as in colouring of bark / shape of leaves etc?

I'll be very grateful for any info anyone would like to share on ID'ing Acacias for extraction.. Thanking you in advance :)
 
Also I thought I'd add these for comparison, pictures from worldwidewattle.com.

Acacia Obtusifolia:
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Acacia Longifolia:
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Acacia Maidenii:
Acacia_maidenii.jpg



..All of these seem to have more pointed ends on the leaves compared to the more rounded leaves on my trees... actually, no i looked again and tree 2 has pointed leaves... hmm.. can't wait to get some replies, see what you all think :d
 
Looks like a A.maidenii
Looks a lot like A.longifolia also but the phyllodes are a little too stubby

I'd say definitely not A.obtusifolia; obtusifolia phyllodes are unmistakable
 
thanks Coshi,

A.Maidenii, that's sounding like what i wanted to hear, Guess there's only one good way to find out hey 😉
 
No worries mate
Looking on wiki and other sources, it doesn't look like a.longifolia and a.obtusifolia even grow up as high as you are. Unfortunately for you though, a.obtusifolia is the business

I could be wrong here, those first two pics you posted look like a.maidenii to me, but that last one especially certainly doesn't! It's from the same tree?

To help you ID, you can also consider flowering times
When did you take those pictures?
Check if your flowering times match those given on www.worldwidewattle.com

Also, you should send an email enquiry to David Cameron at DSE

DEECA

The Department of Energy, Environment and Climate Action is focused on creating a liveable, inclusive and sustainable Victoria with thriving natural environments - where the community is at the centre of everything we do.
www.dse.vic.gov.au www.dse.vic.gov.au
Just call the main number and they should be able to put you through
Very kind helpful guy, I'm sure you'll find your answer with him
 
That looks very similar to the acacia trees we get around my town. I've narrowed them down to a few, but since i've been for a few bushwalks, i've realised that there are literallly hundreds of different species of acacia in this area, but they all look very similar, its almost impossible to put a name to them with the info i've found on WWWattle abd be a 100% sure.
U'd have to post up a pic of the pods, (look on the ground for last season's if its not seeding now)
And would also be good if u could get a macro shot of the leaf in good light so u can check for patterns on the leaf that help ID the plant.

These are the following trees i think that could be:

Acacia auriculiformis

Acacia julifera or one of its subspecies.

best way is to peel 2kg of bark of that tree and mass tech it down to see how much alkaloid is in it. if u strike it lucky u'll end up with 2-5g of DMT.
 
yeah, i thought they were two different species too. The 1st two pics are a different tree to the 2nd pics; the 1st 2 were from a tree in coastal northern nSW, the 2nd 2 from one of the thousands of its type in my area, sub-coastal south east qld. I was thinking the first one may be maidenii; though the flowering times don't quite match. I'm more interested in the 2nd two pics, as these are what's everywhere around me..

I've ruled out the two species you suggested, D_Juggz, - A. Julifera because the flowering times don't match (These are in full flower now, Aug / Sept) and A. Auriculiformis only grows in northern Qld and northern NT.

However, i have found after doing a bit more research, a possible match to my trees - A. Longifolia subspecies Sophorae "Coast Wattle" which apparently grows all along the australian coast from SA to Nth Qld, flowers July to Oct, and the phyllodes also match the description.

I really need to check out the seed pods under the trees, and try get some good close up pics of the leaves now, so will post my findings once i've done that.

What will be interesting to know though, is whether the A. Longifolia subsp. Sophorae is a DMT containing species...

Also thanks Coschi for that contact, i'll give him a try too once i have a better description of leaves and pods..
 
Volcanicplug said:
Hey Supernatural, I live in northern NSW/SEQ and have seen both of these species in abundance near the places I live. I am almost certain that the first species is Acacia sophorae (Coastal wattle) and the second Acacia concurrens (Late flowering black wattle). According to the Herbalistics website Acacia concurrens gives a +++ alkaloid test from bark (http://www.herbalistics.com.au/shop/product_info.php?cPath=3_31&products_id=425)
Hope this helps)8)
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Hey Volcanicplug,

awesome, thanks for that, i thinks you are right; i checked the description of a.concurrens on worldwidewattle and the leaves have the same characteristics. good to know i was on the right track .. now to find out just how +++ these alkaloids are!

(I never could find any seed pods under those trees though, figured they've just broken down already since last time they dropped)



...um, cheech, did you mean to post that in this thread?
 
Hello, I found trees looking very much like acacia longifolia growing near coast of Almada but I have no idea how flowers looked like. I heard these trees area invasive plants in Portugal. Here are some photos (sorry for quality, made with phone):

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