acrb DMT tincture

[starway6]

I have been using the tincure method of storing and vaping...
Usualy my crystals are mostle white to off white and after compleate drying i desolve them in 100 proof grain alcohol and use a dropper to distribute to the pipe..
Ive long noticed that white crystals seem to take on an amber color getting darker the more concintrated they get in the grain alcohol..
This what i vape in photos below..
I asume all dmt no mater how white as crystals ..turn this amber color...
Is this correct with booth kinds mimosa and acacia?

 

[null24]

Looks good to me. That gold is typical of ACRB.

Smoalk moar.

 

[1ce]

That's a neat idea, how well does the tincture vape for you? Is the water an issue?

 

[Earthwalker]

That's a neat idea, how well does the tincture vape for you? Is the water an issue?

What water are you referring too ?

 

[1ce]

The water in the grain alcohol. I know water and ethanol are miscible amd form an azeotrope at 95
57% ethanol/4.43% water.

I was curious if all the fluid vaporized out of the pipe or if you had some residual alcohol remaining. I know some people vaporize alcohol, would this vaporize and effect the experience at all?

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

1ce,

I think the common thing "to do" with a tincture is to let the alcohol evap before vaping.

Put a few drops on some herbs or flavor disk, and then come back a few hours later.

 

[1ce]

1ce,

I think the common thing "to do" with a tincture is to let the alcohol evap before vaping.

Put a few drops on some herbs or flavor disk, and then come back a few hours later.

Ahhh okay. I thought one just vaped the tincture. So it's more like a ready-for-changa mix.

 

[DreaMTripper]

Mr Peabody here had a good idea: MicroChanga

 

[starway6]

That's a neat idea, how well does the tincture vape for you? Is the water an issue?

It vapes great just put so many drops into a plug of volcano wet pad or crushed chore boy then i stick the wad [sized to fit my pipe bowl] on end of a pin oy needle and let the sun and air ventilate through the porus steel wool ..and dry all of the alcohol and any trace amounts of napatha that.. [may].. have gotten through..
Then i carfully vape it through a small amount of water and it works great///
When sizing the wad of wool or chore boy densly enough to hold the drops of tinture but not too denly that air wont ventilate through it..
Because ventilation through the pad alows air to go through it and dry all of the alcohol leaving behind the sticky dmt...

 

[starway6]

When i say a small amount of water means im using a vaporizing water pipe to add coolness to the vapor and posibly trap any unwanted particles from getting into my lungs..
[posibly any micro peices of lye] although doubtfull that any is in the mix .. just trying to be carefull..

 

[starway6]

1ce,

I think the common thing "to do" with a tincture is to let the alcohol evap before vaping.

Put a few drops on some herbs or flavor disk, and then come back a few hours later.

The problem using flavor disk with tinture is that.....
[depending how concintrated you made the tinture]..you often need atleast 10..15 ..or over 20 drops to get a near 30 mg dose.. and the disk.. wont hold all that liquid all at one time..
But a thick enough wad of ..[volcano wet pad].. or [chore boy].. will easily hold it and alow ventilation through it better...
If you tryed to put 10 or 20 drops of tinture on a flavor disk it would run off the disk but the pads are like spunges and will hold the untill it drys leaving the dmt distributed on the metal fibers...
If you want to weigh the dose of tinture ..[just weigh the wad of chore boy before adding the tinture and after the tinture drys compleatly... re weigh the pad..and make a note...
That way you got a good idea of your dosage and wont have to weigh it every time you smoke...

 

[starway6]

Im still using this method of storing DMT in grain alcohol and wonder if anyone has also tryed it and im surprised that this method hasnt been talked about in some time...?

DMT tincture can be stored a long time and can be used in several ways..1 .by dropping some on a chore boy pad and vaping after drying the alcohol..

2..could be used sublingualy...

.3..after having some rue tea..could dropper some into a shot glass after evaporating alcohol add orange juice mix and drink...

Not shure about degrading over long time.. but ive stored it as long as 6 months and it was still strong and active ...

Still i admitt that doseing spice tincture oral or for vaping takes a little measuring weighing efforts..

But i think this way is a convient way to store and use...


I never heard the results that another member tryed a while back.. storing the tincture for up to a year or longer?? to se if and degrading happened?/

 

[downwardsfromzero]

Glad that you bumped this.

Storing as a tincture is pretty safe and convenient: -

*It won't hurt anyone if it they accidentally drink it

*Measuring the dose should be easy enough if the concentration is known

*It can be vaporised, nebulised, dosed sublingually, turned into changa or added to a brew. It's just snorting or plugging that aren't so suitable, and who does that? :roll:


I've been wondering how that long term storage experiment worked out too. We'll have to dig it out from the depths; I'm not sure if that member is still active.

 

[Doc Buxin]

...I've been wondering how that long term storage experiment worked out too. We'll have to dig it out from the depths...

I cannot personally testify to DMT, but I can positively attest to the long-lasting activity of LSD and Psilocybin mushies stored in a very high-alcohol tincture (certified organic cane alcohol 85-95%).

I came up with this idea a decade ago in order to facilitate a micro-dosing system that, I assumed, would probably last for as long as I exist on this plane (due to the preservative nature of the high alcohol content).

The first experimental tincture that I created like this is still very active after a decade. The others that I have made since then are roughly a little over 6 years old and still incredibly effective.

The original experiment was an LSD/Psilocybin blend. Since then I have made a pure P. mushroom one, a pure LSD one and another L/P blended one.

I have no doubt that these tinctures will last me for decades to come.

I would really like to use DMT in this manner in order to experiment with the sublingual dosing ROA, however this will have to wait until I get a new batch extracted (probably sometime this summer when the weather is dry).

 

[starway6]

How do you get mushrooms to desolve in alcohol?..you are extracting first?

If you have lsd in it you must be using a refrigerator...

Anyway.. the member who stored some dmt in grain alcohol.. [at room temp]..as a test for a year or longer was [Entheogenerator].. but i never heard the results from that test..?

I have kept it in 160 proof grain alcohol .. [at room temp]..for months whit out it loosing potency...

The convenience of using a dropper is nice...:thumb_up:

 

[downwardsfromzero]

I would really like to use DMT in this manner in order to experiment with the sublingual dosing ROA

Sublingual 85% ethanol really burns! Add to that a freebase amine... ouch!

I've been tinkering around with adding water to DMT solution in 90% ethanol. At 55% ethanol the DMT phase separates as a yellow oil at -18°C, which is kinda fun. It may be possible to freeze precipitate DMT from vodka! Wish me luck

How do you get mushrooms to desolve in alcohol?..you are extracting first?

The alcohol extracts the mushroom alkaloids - and a bunch of other stuff. The remaining solids can be filtered off or separated by decanting.

 

[Doc Buxin]

How do you get mushrooms to desolve in alcohol?..you are extracting first?

If you have lsd in it you must be using a refrigerator...

Anyway.. the member who stored some dmt in grain alcohol.. [at room temp]..as a test for a year or longer was [Entheogenerator].. but i never heard the results from that test..?

I have kept it in 160 proof grain alcohol .. [at room temp]..for months whit out it loosing potency...

The convenience of using a dropper is nice...:thumb_up:

I simply start with properly dried, whole mushrooms and break them into small enough pieces to fit into the tincture bottle and drop them straight into the 85-95% alcohol solution (it's actually a Peppermint Spirits tincture, which consists of both whole-plant peppermint extract and peppermint essential oil, besides the high, organic, cane alcohol content). The little pieces of mushroom just float in there forever. Hasn't ever seemed to be a problem. Definitely works like magic!

And no, no refrigerator used with the LSD tinctures. I just keep it in a cool (not cold), dry, dark cupboard. They're all tightly sealed in dark amber tincture bottles also. They all work like magic too!8)

 

[Doc Buxin]

I would really like to use DMT in this manner in order to experiment with the sublingual dosing ROA

Sublingual 85% ethanol really burns! Add to that a freebase amine... ouch!

I've been tinkering around with adding water to DMT solution in 90% ethanol. At 55% ethanol the DMT phase separates as a yellow oil at -18°C, which is kinda fun. It may be possible to freeze precipitate DMT from vodka! Wish me luck

How do you get mushrooms to desolve in alcohol?..you are extracting first?

The alcohol extracts the mushroom alkaloids - and a bunch of other stuff. The remaining solids can be filtered off or separated by decanting.

Good luck dfz!!! Let us know how that goes please!

P.S. I wouldn't really care about sublingual burning if it actually delivered the desired results. I've put up with much worse to obtain desired results with all sorts of things!

 

[DisEmboDied]

My tincture looks like that too, but mine is made from acacia goo. If I get crystals from acrb, I just keep them that way, if I get goo, I tincture it. Whatever you feel brotha

 

[rOm]

I started off by making and using tincture for jim-jam ( mimosa goo ) and also for mesuring salvinorin A ( 1mg/ml ), evap in the glass pipe and evap. Buut then I started to make changa and store dmt as fumarate.
So I don't know but I would guess it stores well for a year or more if using high proof ethanol. I dont see a reason why not. I use tincture for all sorts of herbs and alcohol is well known for it long storing power. Like honey, airtight and out of sun, air, fresh place. I mean Changa already can store for years.
Sublingual is too yukky for me, so to avoid gag I'd use another way.
For 5 MeO DMT, IR is amongst the most confortable ROA i.e.