ACRB yields - How-to optimize?

[Infectedstyle]

Hello and thanks for reading, hope you have a good day out here..

ACRB extractions are more difficult and I think part of the process that makes it difficult is the extra fats.

I am using pre-powdered ACRB
I am thinking that the fats in the solvents are preventing crystallization of DMT.

I also experience low yields after evapping, very low. Is it possible that defatting will help pull more DMT?
Adding more Lye is not helping much.

Using Max ion Tek, word for word.. As far as I know.

 

[DeeMenTalist]

I am thinking that the fats in the solvents are preventing crystallization of DMT.

Maybe you are talking about goo? I wasn`t 100% satisfied with my first ACRB extraction either. Maybe half of the yield was white fluffy xtals and another half clear goo. Also yield was not impressive. And this is with backsalting stage(from Earthwalker`s thread). I`ll play with it a bit more and hope for better results, or maybe this is just a bark(hawaiian) that i got. :? Atm i`m freeze precipitating solvent from second extraction(made some little changes here) so will see how this one turn out.
Anyway that goo is very potent and smokes fine.:thumb_up: Only problem that its hard to handle and weight it, especially when it won`t dry or at least solidify a little.

 

[Infectedstyle]

The goo in question is very minimum in weight. It's about 0.1% yield. A friend is doing 250g and yielded about 1g~ of spice in 10 total pulls. He's got doing a/b and salt and everything and also won't crystalize or has good yields just like me. I'd say he's doing better than me with 1g.

 

[Infectedstyle]

Ofcourse slow cooling is going to help crystallization. I will add that so nobody has to come out and say it.

 

[concombres]

I`ve had this same problem with ACRB every time I have used it.
The Hawaiian stuff is all i`ve used & every batch over the course of the last 3years has done it & yeilds were low.

I think maybe next time I attempt an extraction with ACRB i`m going for a different colored powder or bark that has a different appearance.
I have a feeling alot of ACRB going around looks similar to the whole pieces I`'ve encountered & probably comes from alot farther up the tree than the RB in ACRB implies.

 

[null24]

Sounds like a issue that can't be discussed to me. I've worked with acrb for several years now, and one of the things I've learned is that it seems to do what it wants. From my last batch of 250 grams of bark, the first half yielded over 4gr of golden wax that have breakthrough at 40mg, but the other half only about 1 of clear crystal, and some goo.

ACRB is a rewarding as well as frustrating plant to work with. Very feminine.

 

[Rocket3476stz]

I agree, different every time even with the same batch of root bark. Sometimes crystals and goo. Sometimes just goo. Very feminine. Shakti.

 

[arcologist]

There are very few 'fats' in ACRB, it's largely NMT (usually more NMT than DMT, typically 60/40 ratio).

It is very possible in my experience to consistently get crystaline DMT if you thouroughly remove it using the dry ice method. If there is any left at all, you get various kinds of goo as the end result because the NMT seems to disrupt the formation of DMT crystals.

Usually my extraction goes like this:
* Acid boil with vinegar, filter.
* Base with NaOH, 6+ pulls with xylene
* dry ice
* add acetone/fumaric acid to precipitate as DMT fumarate, dry and collect.
* dissolve in water, base with NaOH, 6+ pulls with naphtha.
* freeze precipitate.

Yield is usually around 1%.

 

[Infectedstyle]

There are very few 'fats' in ACRB, it's largely NMT (usually more NMT than DMT, typically 60/40 ratio).

It is very possible in my experience to consistently get crystaline DMT if you thouroughly remove it using the dry ice method. If there is any left at all, you get various kinds of goo as the end result because the NMT seems to disrupt the formation of DMT crystals.

Usually my extraction goes like this:
* Acid boil with vinegar, filter.
* Base with NaOH, 6+ pulls with xylene
* dry ice
* add acetone/fumaric acid to precipitate as DMT fumarate, dry and collect.
* dissolve in water, base with NaOH, 6+ pulls with naphtha.
* freeze precipitate.

Yield is usually around 1%.

Thank you for suggesting this arcologist I had no idea this is how it works. This will be very useful for me :thumb_up:

Also appreciate you making simple steps for me to understand here. I am suddenly overcome with the urge to re-try an extraction

ACRB is a rewarding as well as frustrating plant to work with. Very feminine.

 

[Pixar]

I have the same problems with ACRB : the goo and low yields. Sometimes it is powdery and sometimes goo. :/

I am also trying out ACRB from different sources and will compare them qualitatively in relation to their yields.

Maybe there is a link, maybe not.

 

[TGO]

ACRB can be frustrating to work with for sure but I have to say that I love that goo! Crystals are pretty but the goo is beautiful too! It is difficult to measure and store but that is why I always make changa out of it...or enhanced leaf. Depends on what materials I have available at the time!

8)

 

[1ce]

Acid boil, then filter the bark out, wash with np solvent, basify, extract into np solvent, wash with distilled water. If solvent is off color clean with carbon and filter out. Filtering the carbon through diatomacious earth seems to do an excellent job.


This should work well for you.

 

[Pixar]

Acid boil, then filter the bark out, wash with np solvent, basify, extract into np solvent, wash with distilled water. If solvent is off color clean with carbon and filter out. Filtering the carbon through diatomacious earth seems to do an excellent job.


This should work well for you.

I have done all this with the exception of the carbon step. I will try this one day, thanks.