Addiction?

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The topic is about "What happens if one takes too much of DMT?". And SWIM found this video to be relevant for those who are seeking the answer to the essence of the question.

If this video does not answer any questions of yours, it is not relevant to you. Let me remark, however, that a mere discussion of the thoughts one receives is still an action, a way of allowing the information to flow.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

You literally said not to comment on the dubious nature of the video, so I didn't. While I think it's funny that you would post something in support of a claim and then say, please don't question my supporting document, I didn't make an issue out of it; saying nothing about the content of the video. What gets me is, despite your request that no one comment on the video (with which I complied) you didn't respond to the actual questions I raised;

How do you explain a user's failure to put the information received into action not resulting in the cessation of the user's ability to "download" information?


Do you really think a discussion that nets no change in reality but is merely mental masturbation counts as action? That could explain why we have so many self-proclaimed "activists".

edit: oh yea, and the topic is about addiction (I really wish people would stop telling me what the topics are about, I can read the thread titles, I can read your posts, the reality of what a thread is is what it is, it doesn't change just because you say it's about x).

 

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How do you explain a user's failure to put the information received into action not resulting in the cessation of the user's ability to "download" information?

Let me remark, however, that a mere discussion of the thoughts one receives is still an action, a way of allowing the information to flow.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

The information one receives must flow through person, which is done by taking action.

Look, here you said that flow only occurs when you take action, yet you later equate talking with flow, not with action, and then later equate it with action (make up your mind, unless you really believe that talking = action, in which case read my earlier comment about "activists" ). You have literally put the cart before the horse here, by your own explanation of how these things work (according to your beliefs).

If the flow ceases, how do you explain individuals who take psychedelics recreationally and never put any of it into action? Or those who take it sacramentally and never put it into action but merely ponder and discuss the philosophical fodder it creates?

How do you explain a user's failure to put the information received into action not resulting in the cessation of the user's ability to "download" information?

Let me remark, however, that a mere discussion of the thoughts one receives is still an action, a way of allowing the information to flow.

Congrats on selectively copying my post to include only the part you "answered".


That does not answer the question in regards to people who take psychedelics to party, nor does it address the fact that mental masturbation, while it may allow things to flow, doesn't actually do anything as far as putting these things into practice. So while it may be "flowing" (whatever you believe that means) no action has been taken. I'm speaking specifically of people who never do anything more than discuss anything, whose discussions never net any change to reality. You present half-thought out ideas that you then ask people not to attack and don't actually defend. What's the point of all of this?

 

[redlightsflash]

Yes, you can become addicted psychologically to anything that produces an altered state of mind or feeling (feeling is really the mind at work). For one, DMT can produce euphoria, and that euphoria simply cannot come without some sort of response/downregulation by the brain. I experienced this euphoria without breaking through.

Saying that the individual is responsible for the apparent psychological addiction is somewhat subjective and biased, favoring drugs. I tend to think that both the person and the chemical are responsible. We may have full control over our actions and be able to beat a psychological habit through sheer will power, but the point is that it can sometimes take significant effort. Any effort required at all on our part shows that the substance has some addictive potential.

EDIT: I just want to add that just because something has addictive potential, psychological or physical, does not mean it is dangerous. Almost anything in life you enjoy will have psychologically addictive potential (think about video games in particular), but they are not necessarily detrimental to our lives. The word 'addictive' has many negative connotations, especially in Western society/medicine I would think, but the problems only start when you allow the activity/substance to ruin the quality of your life and detract from important things, such as family, job, health, happiness.

 

[TrustLoveMan]

I done DMT in one hit and I've smoked multiple hits in the course of a couple hours. If I get a low dose of DMT, I find that the trip is not intense enough and I might end up re-dosing many times. If I'm not deep in my mind, I have a bad habit of packing bowl after bowl.
The visuals die down throughout the smoking, but your brain is still going full speed. Eventually it's like being on a stimulant with a strong body high. This only happens when I'm already intoxicated by DMT. In that state I am not thinking clearly and I'll keep smoking till I've burning through .5 grams. If I have gotten a night of sleep of stopped smoking for a couple hours, then I feel NO need to dose on DMT.
I usually don't feel like smoking until I'm high on weed and I read some experiences on this forum. I'm trying harder to dose infrequently and with determination. I find it's more efficient to rip lower doses quicker and clear your mind. Also, re-dosing gives me a burnt out on DMT feeling. It's not like a 5minute dose, where I feel energized and quick afterwards.
Basically, I don't think there are any addictive qualities to DMT. Like weed though, I have to limit myself in it's use so it doesn't become a tool to escape reality. It's more about my personality then the drug's effects.