Advice for a good trip

[tomtom]

Hey guys, I have decided I am going to smoke my DMT, I was put off by my first breakthrough which was my worst nightmare on steroids, my first time I didn't weigh it and loaded the glass pipe with approximately 100mg of yellow DMT, I then proceeded to blaze that shit with my jet flame lighter in my passenger seat car in a park where I had no privacy and I had Shpongle's "I am you" playing, Oh my god was it the most horrific experience that could have ever existed, it did thing's to me I could never put into words, it traumatized me so much I instantly forget my trip then only remembered through flashbacks, though upon exiting my trip I heard whispered to me that I need to find the balance, I have come to realize that finding the balance refers to my entire life, spiritual and human

Now, of course, my priority is to weigh my dosage before use, I have heard 25mg is enough for a breakthrough, but I am not going for a breakthrough unless I feel I am ready, I would like to use only about 10mg to see the effects of that, then increase my dosage if I feel like I should, I am not trying to learn anything from my trip, the only place I expect to find spiritual wisdom is through meditation or a connection with the divine,

Any advice on how I can avoid another bad trip would be much appreciated
By the way, how much DMT do you think is in this oven dish in the photo, the lighter is for size reference

Kind regards
Thanks for reading



DMT

 

[IceKoldpp]

easy. sounds like you already know exactly what made the first one bad as u were able to list them out, so just don't do any of those things.

kidding (kindof) aside, it's pretty easy to have an amazing experience pretty much everytime on spice. u just have to follow the basic guidelines for pretty much all psychedelics. assuming this isn't a troll post..

take an intentional dose, don't just wing it or eyeball it. especially w/ the most powerful substance on the planet. you must respect it. or it will MAKE you respect it. u figured that part out tho.

set and setting matters. a park or really anywhere where there are random ppl jus' millin' around (especially possibly children. cuz u know.. park) are not ideal. usually at home is the most ideal but if you live w/ others that maybe wouldn't be cool w/ u doing it there then find somewhere else that you can be comfortable and uninterrupted, preferably inside until ur more used to the effects of the spice. definitely don't try to sneak to do it at home though bc that type of anxiety def isn't a good headspace to launch from. basically u just need to be somewhere private and familiar in a comfortable position. easy.

as for your ambient music (if u rly want some playing. it's definitely not needed and silence can be ur friend during a trip w/ spice) i'd suggest something that is little more than white noise at a barely audible volume. i usually play something from a meditation playlist off of spotify. there are alot of tracks that are like 30 min+ which is good bc it's consistent and a track change can take u right out of the trip. spice isn't like other substances that enhance other activities like enjoying music or food or sex or what have u. spice IS the experience and ur basically trying to eliminate as much outside stimulus as possible so that ur focus can remain on the trip. nothing sucks like flying through hyperspace with a mantis entity excitedly telling u the secrets of the cosmos just to be pulled out of it bc u hear a familiar guitar solo cluing u back into reality.

as for ur photo. maybe 2mg? ish. not enough to even save rly.

 

[tomtom]

easy. sounds like you already know exactly what made the first one bad as u were able to list them out, so just don't do any of those things.

kidding (kindof) aside, it's pretty easy to have an amazing experience pretty much everytime on spice. u just have to follow the basic guidelines for pretty much all psychedelics. assuming this isn't a troll post..

take an intentional dose, don't just wing it or eyeball it. especially w/ the most powerful substance on the planet. you must respect it. or it will MAKE you respect it. u figured that part out tho.

set and setting matters. a park or really anywhere where there are random ppl jus' millin' around (especially possibly children. cuz u know.. park) are not ideal. usually at home is the most ideal but if you live w/ others that maybe wouldn't be cool w/ u doing it there then find somewhere else that you can be comfortable and uninterrupted, preferably inside until ur more used to the effects of the spice. definitely don't try to sneak to do it at home though bc that type of anxiety def isn't a good headspace to launch from. basically u just need to be somewhere private and familiar in a comfortable position. easy.

as for your ambient music (if u rly want some playing. it's definitely not needed and silence can be ur friend during a trip w/ spice) i'd suggest something that is little more than white noise at a barely audible volume. i usually play something from a meditation playlist off of spotify. there are alot of tracks that are like 30 min+ which is good bc it's consistent and a track change can take u right out of the trip. spice isn't like other substances that enhance other activities like enjoying music or food or sex or what have u. spice IS the experience and ur basically trying to eliminate as much outside stimulus as possible so that ur focus can remain on the trip. nothing sucks like flying through hyperspace with a mantis entity excitedly telling u the secrets of the cosmos just to be pulled out of it bc u hear a familiar guitar solo cluing u back into reality.

as for ur photo. maybe 2mg? ish. not enough to even save rly.

2mg? I'm pretty sure it's more than 2 milligrams, I got that from 2 50gram batches of acuminata with cybs hybrid ab tek, maybe I'm doing something wrong, last time I did spice it was super intense, do you get that same intensness from a lower dosage like 25mg?

 

[Voidmatrix]

Any advice on how I can avoid another bad trip would be much appreciated

Simple answer: you can't prevent a challenging experience. You may be able to decrease its likelihood of occurring, but for most, a challenging trip happens from time to time. While the space can be navigated with practice, you're still at its whim.

Other advice: don't do this in your car. Set up a nice space with symbolic items. Make it special. This isn't something to take lightly, and as you've already experienced, it gets real.

Evaluate why you want to go back and why you want to do DMT.

Don't underestimate this medicine... you may touch the divine or receive something of value you've never imagined before.

One love

 

[IceKoldpp]

2mg? I'm pretty sure it's more than 2 milligrams, I got that from 2 50gram batches of acuminata with cybs hybrid ab tek, maybe I'm doing something wrong, last time I did spice it was super intense, do you get that same intensness from a lower dosage like 25mg?

idk man. that looks like very very very little to me. i just did my first extraction and i also did 100g but used MHRB and this is what i got from that. i've never heard of acuminata but if u did the tek correctly then its ur bark not having a high dmt content. the two most common barks used are acacia and mimosa hostilis root bark. i'd try using one of those first before adjusting ur tek and see what u get.

regarding dose, i can't even imagine what 100mg of spice would feel like bc that's an absurd amount and over 4-5 x what u need to breakthrough. i'm sure 25mg isn't going to be as intense as 100mg obviously but 25 mg of spice will be an intense experience. that is enough to breakthrough depending on ur technique and a few other factors so if ur not looking for an intense experience i'm not sure why spice would interest u anyway. spice is intense. it's kindof it's whole thing. but it's valuable for many and worth the intensity. my suggestion would be to start wih 10-15mg next time and ease up from there (20-25 etc) on subsequent trips until u find what ur looking for "intensness" wise.

 

[Exitwound]

Please, don't rush it and keep internalizing, why you are doing that.
This is my personal formula, that I adhered to and initiated some others, always to good results (no bad trips this way).

To avoid bad trips, first I suggest to not do it alone, but have a very trusted chill sitter with you, who ideally would understand your states and react accordingly.
If you can't have sitter, and still can't postpone, then atleast do the following:
1) mentally and physically prepare for your trip - don't have any urgent/pressing things to do in short or long term, turn off all disturbances like phone, have a safe and isolated place where you wouldn't be able to harm yourself while tripping. don't take other drugs(incl alcohol) before trip and eat lightly.
2) start slowly - at first 5-7mg and ride it out, when you are done with the feeling the water and tasting the smoke again, weight 15-17mg and smoke it as efficiently as possible.
See how it was. If it wasn't deep enough and you are curious to see more, keep increasing in small increments. 25-27mg should be enough for the most users, to have BT level experience and keep memories after the trip. Doses more than that can be a blackout or very unpleasant experiences.
3) for music, it ofc varies by taste, but since you mentioned Shpongle, then Astrix, Captain Hook and Vini Vici always brought out pleasant trips and acted as a grounding guides for me. Shpongle can sound too otherworldly while under the influence, though I tripped couple of times while listening to "I am you" and there were very vibrant and beautiful expriences. Tripping to "God particle" was intense lol.

 

[🌺🔥🫧]

Yes but trip sitters will parent you, which will offload the psychic power of the trip. Of course you can go that route if you like, or if it's much stronger than you thought it was going to be, but that is the nature of the power is that it's like nothing you've ever seen before. From my personal path I suggest you start low and go slow. Get some really good traction tripping on your own. Take lower doses, more often, for longer periods of time. This is like being new to power lifting. Don't walk in the gym and start hitting whatever your max deadlift is. Give your body like half a year to accustom itself to the range and type of motion, or far longer for psychedelics. Then start pushing your '1RM'. While being patient can be a bit more boring, it will be worth it. You will have a much more sound psychic foundation. Break me down, Build me up


Be mindful of talking about your trip in places where you wouldn't be comfortable re-experiencing the trip. This goes not only for yourself, but if you are with other psychonauts who have been difficult places, even if it doesn't effect you much at the time, or in retrospect, it can effect them. So just be mindful of where, when, and how you touch base with these memories. That being said, if you wish to process this experience, I have found it very balming to ask my friends to sit outside with me in nature, like a beautiful sunny day or something, somewhere where re-experiencing the trip would be well grounded, and speak all about it with them. Just let them know that you might activate the memories. It's good if it's a friend or person you trust unconditionally.

I have come to realize that finding the balance refers to my entire life, spiritual and human

This sounds like a wonderful take-away ~
Remember smoking DMT, or any psychedelic, albeit subsumingly immense in your psychic topography, is only part of your life. Who you are in your entirety matters, because it is that which goes into your trips, and relates to them. This is a takeaway that I see many veteran psychonauts in my life reflect back to me. The focus of your life in its entirety.

it traumatized me so much I instantly forget my trip then only remembered through flashback

I know what you mean by this to some extent. In my own way, I have experienced that as well. What I was not ready for at the time, has hidden itself inside of me, beyond even my subconscious, and I am hoping to reunite with those energies again with a wiser mind and bigger heart. What may be a challenge to you now, even make you feel fragile, or shattered, is waiting for you inside now, for when you are ready to see it, and be with it.

Any advice on how I can avoid another bad trip would be much appreciated

1) If that is the only thing that interests you, my advice is simple: Don't trip

2) But if you are called to it for whatever reason, then try to acknowledge and accept the risks as best you can, and invest yourself to the degree you feel so inspired to (or feel is required of you). Many spiritualists dedicate their entire lifestyles. Some people mentally prepare for an entire week before smoking DMT for '30 minutes', or sit with their experiences for years.

3) Yes simple things are profoundly effective like, being mindful of dietary energies surrounding a trip, being mindful of what you are psychically consuming, learning how to just sit so you can pay attention, preparing your space for your future self who is tripping (temperature, safety, privacy, comfort, also energetic qualities like maybe light a candle, or dim the lights, or whatever you feel).


My 2 cents luv! best wishes.

 

[Transform]

i've never heard of acuminata but if u did the tek correctly then its ur bark not having a high dmt content. the two most common barks used are acacia and mimosa hostilis root bark

Acacia acuminata. There are dozens of species of active acacias, besides the A. confusa you've likely heard of being used. Sounds like you may have a bit of background reading to do

Trying to improve Acacia information

..INDEX OF THIS THREAD [yellow links to relevant post] note: the main objectives of this thread, when it started in June 2011, were: 1) to improve the veracity of phytochemical info on Acacias worldwide 2) to encourage SUSTAINABLE use of Acacias, by growing 3) to find enough active species...

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Botany - Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

Hey guys. I havnt been able to purchase a field guide as recommended by another member, although today I came across a flowering acacia that looks to be obtusifolia as it flowers between nov-dec in NSW and im just north of sydney. What do you all think about this? Comments appreciated :)

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[IceKoldpp]

Acacia acuminata. There are dozens of species of active acacias, besides the A. confusa you've likely heard of being used. Sounds like you may have a bit of background reading to do

Trying to improve Acacia information

..INDEX OF THIS THREAD [yellow links to relevant post] note: the main objectives of this thread, when it started in June 2011, were: 1) to improve the veracity of phytochemical info on Acacias worldwide 2) to encourage SUSTAINABLE use of Acacias, by growing 3) to find enough active species...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

Botany - Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

Hey guys. I havnt been able to purchase a field guide as recommended by another member, although today I came across a flowering acacia that looks to be obtusifolia as it flowers between nov-dec in NSW and im just north of sydney. What do you all think about this? Comments appreciated :)

forum.dmt-nexus.me

ahh.. wow. i rly whiffed the ball on that one lol. that said though, if those are the typical results of that particalar type of acacia i think i'll stick to the Mimosa ( jk i'm sure it's the tek, couldn't resist tho )

 

[Sakkadelic]

By the way, how much DMT do you think is in this oven dish in the photo, the lighter is for size reference

I'd guess 10-20 mg. If there's a gooey layer on the dish make sure to scrape that, it would be mostly dmt and it's dense so you'll get some more from that.
But of course, get a mg scale.

 

[Transform]

By the way, how much DMT do you think is in this oven dish in the photo, the lighter is for size reference

There's a load of household dust particles in your dish - maybe give the place a thorough clean before attempting another extraction!

If you're scraping up goo with all that dust in it, it may be an idea to purify it (mini A/B…) before ingestion.