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:/ advice needed please nexus!
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I would ditch the respectless buddys next time.
Spend a lot more time in contemplation... meditate if you are able. Prepare yourself on all levles for a sacred experience.
Entities are not puppets or toys that pop out for you like a jack in the box whenever you wind up the wheel.
They certainly could help you if they choose. But understanding the motivations of hyper-dimensional beings that view our entire Universe as a comical bit of kozmic theater... is not really easy.
If you are looking for therapeutic psychological help via entheogens, try something a bit longer lasting. Ayahuasca is usually ideal. Even a heavy disso experience can clear things up for you. You can't be afraid to wade through some uncomfortable shyte though. It is, afterall, your shyte. The sewer of your own mind overflows and you are knee deep in your own offal.
Whatever you decide, find a sacred place to enjoy your sacraments. Somewhere in nature, with a high vibration, where people will be extremely unlikely to randomly come upon you. Someplace not overtly dangerous either... no cliff faces or bird's nests.
Be well man.
Spend a lot more time in contemplation... meditate if you are able. Prepare yourself on all levles for a sacred experience.
Entities are not puppets or toys that pop out for you like a jack in the box whenever you wind up the wheel.
They certainly could help you if they choose. But understanding the motivations of hyper-dimensional beings that view our entire Universe as a comical bit of kozmic theater... is not really easy.
If you are looking for therapeutic psychological help via entheogens, try something a bit longer lasting. Ayahuasca is usually ideal. Even a heavy disso experience can clear things up for you. You can't be afraid to wade through some uncomfortable shyte though. It is, afterall, your shyte. The sewer of your own mind overflows and you are knee deep in your own offal.
Whatever you decide, find a sacred place to enjoy your sacraments. Somewhere in nature, with a high vibration, where people will be extremely unlikely to randomly come upon you. Someplace not overtly dangerous either... no cliff faces or bird's nests.
Be well man.
I would ask yourself, honestly, what your trying to achieve using DMT?
Are you attempting to be cool or gain acceptance from others?
I may have missed something in your post and I not understanding whats going on.
Using DMT is very serious. IMO.
I mean no disrespect.
but...
I got some DMT! Wanna watch me do it? Hey look at me I'm doing DMT!! WhooooooHoooo!
Get what I mean?
I would re-think your approach to what it is your attempting to gain or answer by using DMT.
Your lucky that your voyage wasnt allot worse.
Understand something here Sky Motion, You get out of it what you put into it. You said it yourself that you went about it all wrong.
Ctrl Alt Delete and start your quest over with a fresh perspective on what it is you are trying to accomplish. quality in quality out, bullshit in bullshit out.
All is reflection.
Good luck,
Ice House
Are you attempting to be cool or gain acceptance from others?
I may have missed something in your post and I not understanding whats going on.
Using DMT is very serious. IMO.
I mean no disrespect.
but...
I got some DMT! Wanna watch me do it? Hey look at me I'm doing DMT!! WhooooooHoooo!
Get what I mean?
I would re-think your approach to what it is your attempting to gain or answer by using DMT.
Your lucky that your voyage wasnt allot worse.
Understand something here Sky Motion, You get out of it what you put into it. You said it yourself that you went about it all wrong.
Ctrl Alt Delete and start your quest over with a fresh perspective on what it is you are trying to accomplish. quality in quality out, bullshit in bullshit out.
All is reflection.
Good luck,
Ice House
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I'd suggest simply trying it more. If you have only done it 4 times then you still don't have enough experience in it to actually grasp the meanings behind what is all happening. In addition many new dreamers don't always have as wonderful, or blissful dreams as more advanced ones do. I believe this has a lot to do with fearing it. Many new users are scared of these entire new experiences because they are out of the norm.
Also the setting needs to be something the dreamer is comfortable with. If your friends are being annoying or noisy it normally doesn't end well for you. You need to do it in a safe, comfortable area, and with 1 or 2 trusted friends who you know would help you in the event something goes wrong. Kind of like a security blanket. So in those moments in your trip where maybe you feel like you're stuck there or somethings not right. You can put your mind to ease knowing you are safe.
Also I believe you you are holding too high of expectations for it. The best way to go into it is with no expectations at all. Not good, or bad. Just go into it with the mind set of just going with the flow and whatever happens. While DMT does cause many to attempt to better their lives and others. It's not a sure thing. In fact that happens from within you. The DMT just opens a doorway that's been there all along. You have to walk through it.
In the end DMT may not be right for you at this time, but I think it's too early to tell or jump to conclusions. Hope your next experience is much better, and I hope we may have helped in some way or another.
Also the setting needs to be something the dreamer is comfortable with. If your friends are being annoying or noisy it normally doesn't end well for you. You need to do it in a safe, comfortable area, and with 1 or 2 trusted friends who you know would help you in the event something goes wrong. Kind of like a security blanket. So in those moments in your trip where maybe you feel like you're stuck there or somethings not right. You can put your mind to ease knowing you are safe.
Also I believe you you are holding too high of expectations for it. The best way to go into it is with no expectations at all. Not good, or bad. Just go into it with the mind set of just going with the flow and whatever happens. While DMT does cause many to attempt to better their lives and others. It's not a sure thing. In fact that happens from within you. The DMT just opens a doorway that's been there all along. You have to walk through it.
In the end DMT may not be right for you at this time, but I think it's too early to tell or jump to conclusions. Hope your next experience is much better, and I hope we may have helped in some way or another.
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Hyperspace Fool- I definitely will ditch the buddies, they happened to appear BY CHANCE and it was not my intentions for them to be there and act so foolishly, I even told them not to act foolishly once we we're going in but they didn't listen. I could tell they were like this so I only took about 10mg out of the bowl because I wasn't getting good vibes from the situation. Also, I am looking into changa/ayahuasca to ease into hyperspace because the blast off is very stressful for me. Thank you so much for your advice.
Ice House- As said before, it was pure chance that they ended up there and I respect DMT more than anything else, I do. I am not looking for social acceptance whatsoever. I have always been interested and amazed by the psychedelic experience and only seek DMT for myself and no one else. Thank you for your advice and I will put everything into a fresh perspective for when I try again.
Dream2Awaken- I definitely intend to try it more, maybe with changa or other means of administration because I find that the speed and intensity to reach hyperspace in such a short amount of time usually leads me to naturally freak out. Do you or anyone else have any tips for this? Easier Lift off? Does meditation really help?
And yes I think from now on I will only have ONE if ANY people present in the room and make sure they are a trusted friend. I never have expectations for DMT, I always tell myself what I would LIKE to get out of the voyage but I never demand that it actually be shown to me. (Sort of like a prayer?) Thanks for your advice
Any other advice from the Nexus is still greatly sought! I would like to know more about peoples experience with meditation before and after administration and changa experiences because I think that might be the best way to approach hyperspace for me but who knows, maybe I can smoke freebase but need a better set/setting that I have yet to figure out.
Ice House- As said before, it was pure chance that they ended up there and I respect DMT more than anything else, I do. I am not looking for social acceptance whatsoever. I have always been interested and amazed by the psychedelic experience and only seek DMT for myself and no one else. Thank you for your advice and I will put everything into a fresh perspective for when I try again.
Dream2Awaken- I definitely intend to try it more, maybe with changa or other means of administration because I find that the speed and intensity to reach hyperspace in such a short amount of time usually leads me to naturally freak out. Do you or anyone else have any tips for this? Easier Lift off? Does meditation really help?
And yes I think from now on I will only have ONE if ANY people present in the room and make sure they are a trusted friend. I never have expectations for DMT, I always tell myself what I would LIKE to get out of the voyage but I never demand that it actually be shown to me. (Sort of like a prayer?) Thanks for your advice
Any other advice from the Nexus is still greatly sought! I would like to know more about peoples experience with meditation before and after administration and changa experiences because I think that might be the best way to approach hyperspace for me but who knows, maybe I can smoke freebase but need a better set/setting that I have yet to figure out.
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I would suggest maybe using Mary Jane beforehand. That is if you already smoke it. Often it helps calm people down and it dulls the effects if your high on Jane. So maybe you can use that to take away some of the intensity. Meditation does help as well. As the setting of the room is just as important as your mental setting. I would wait on the ayahuasca because the process is prolonged and if you were to trip too hard, and get freaked out. It would be a lot longer to wait it out then just the standard smoking it.
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Also for the time being I would do it with at least 1 other. That way you can have ease of mind that somebody is there that can help you if something goes wrong. The "I'm alone and helpless" Dream can be intense to say the least, and you'll appreciate someones company.
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Right on.
The one time I did breakthrough was when I was alone though, it was just the right time I think! I don't usually have problems where I'm afraid or nervous about something going wrong.
Mary Jane tends to cloud the visions for me and although I do smoke it would prefer not to combine it with freebase.
The one time I did breakthrough was when I was alone though, it was just the right time I think! I don't usually have problems where I'm afraid or nervous about something going wrong.
Mary Jane tends to cloud the visions for me and although I do smoke it would prefer not to combine it with freebase.
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Oh my bad. I didn't mean to combine them. I'm suggesting getting high maybe an hour before your trip. Let the Jane calm down and not make the trip too cloudy, but have less intensity.
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It's all good man! I think a combination of that and meditation would really really help. you are new here too, do you have any experiences to share yet? I would like to hear more about you since we're both newbies haha.
you are new here too, do you have any experiences to share yet? I would like to hear more about you since we're both newbies haha.
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I hope it does. You will have to let me know when, or if you try it, and tell me how it goes. Haha newbies ban together! I don't often talk about my individual Dreams as I don't want them to affect others trips, but I will tell you that the further you go into it. The weirder it all gets, but while some experiences may be scary or jarring. Even the worst of trips can teach you things about yourself and life so just accept them as much as the best of trips. Plus if you don't have a "bad" trip at some point. You cannot truly appreciate the great ones. Also if you keep in mind you'll be okay when it's all over. You can learn to enjoy even the worst of Dreams. In any trip just remember to keep your breathing constant and it will help immensely. Anytime you need advice feel free to message me and I'll do what I can to help. Happy Dreaming
I've been learning something new just about everytime I smoke. The learning curve for proper "hyperspace travel" seems steep indeed.
For me I need SILENCE. The only times I've broke thru were alone. I can focus on the trip better without distractions.
Last week I was smoking with my wife and a friend and learned a few things. My wife went first, the friend and I followed. She didn't take very much and came out of it quickly. Just as I'm rushing into hyperspace she starts talking to me.
I asked her to be quite....."Screw you, I want to talk" she says. The rambling continues.
I asked her again to shut it...."This is who I am, deal with it" she says. She's talking to herself...talking to talk..talk...talk..talk
I get pissed and turn to her with rage in my eyes...SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! She's surprised by my anger, but still keeps on talking.
This amounts to my first bad DMT trip. It really affected me, I couldn't imagine messing with someone who's tripping. And my own wife no less...WTF.
Lesson learned....set and setting are crucial. So are the people you choose to travel with. I'll smoke with her again, just small doses though, not going to try for a breakthru.
For me I need SILENCE. The only times I've broke thru were alone. I can focus on the trip better without distractions.
Last week I was smoking with my wife and a friend and learned a few things. My wife went first, the friend and I followed. She didn't take very much and came out of it quickly. Just as I'm rushing into hyperspace she starts talking to me.
I asked her to be quite....."Screw you, I want to talk" she says. The rambling continues.
I asked her again to shut it...."This is who I am, deal with it" she says. She's talking to herself...talking to talk..talk...talk..talk
I get pissed and turn to her with rage in my eyes...SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! She's surprised by my anger, but still keeps on talking.
This amounts to my first bad DMT trip. It really affected me, I couldn't imagine messing with someone who's tripping. And my own wife no less...WTF.
Lesson learned....set and setting are crucial. So are the people you choose to travel with. I'll smoke with her again, just small doses though, not going to try for a breakthru.
I don't see why it's necessary to have sitters with vaporized DMT sessions. Maybe if it was your first time and were really nervous, a friend out in the other room might be desired, but you will be more likely to have a deeper experience if you are alone. Besides, it's a personal experience.
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I agree that most breakthrough sessions are done while alone, but sitters are still important. I refer to a sitter not as just another person to watch over people, but an experienced smoker. One that can lend help to others to understand their experiences. Sitting isn't just for the newbie, but for the experienced person doing the sitting as well. In Buddhist belief the path to perfect enlightenment happens not only when you enlighten yourself, but when you aid others in enlightening themselves. In fact most of my major breakthroughs have happened after aiding others in their quest. Yes it is a personal experience, and you should be honored when people want to share it with you.
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