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Again a look at Wu Zhu Yu (Evodia Rutacarpa) for 5-Meo-DMT

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I'm actually very interested in some 5-Meo-DMT Source. As it seems there still isn't really a good readily available source for it.

I stumbled upon this plant "Evodia Rutacarpa" and then saw, that there have been already threads about it on the Nexus, like:
STB with Evodia Rutaecarpa for 5meoDMT? - Bufotenine and 5-MeO-DMT - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
Evodia Fruit Extraction Experiment - Plant Analysis and Substance Testing - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

The extraction seems to have been semi exciting. Surely not the best yield, but OTOH the product to extract from is very cheaply available...

In this source
Wu Zhu Yu - Evodia fruit / Euodia / Tetradium ruticarpum - Chinese Herbal Medicine

it is stated that the plant...
Contains small amount of 5-MeO-DMT (about 0.21% in aerial parts), a powerful psychedelic

This seems to be quite a bit higher that the extractions from the threads here.
My thoughts on this were:
Could it be that the drying and long shelving kill some of the 5-Meo-DMT?
Does 5-Meo-DMT also oxidize like DMT?
If yes, can it also be reversed with the zinc-reduction?

For I could well think that in the form it is usually available (dried fruits), that probably most of the 5-Meo-DMT has oxidized.

I would be very interested in giving this again a try, as the product is really cheaply available, and other options are lacking...

Just FYI, all other known plant sources for DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are illegal where I live and unfortunately customs very eagerly gets (almost) every packet you order (they seem to know exactly what the packets from the different sources look like). There have been many here which instead of their packet, got an invitation from the police and a complete search of their house...
BTW, not even the seeds/spores of these plants are legal here, even if they do not contain any scheduled drug. But just because the plant would...
But this herb would be available...Surely also Phalaris, but that's another topic...
It's really crazy... When I was young, you could buy 5-MeO-DMT just legally in the next smart-shop, also shrooms were completely legal. Nowadays it's crazy how they made everything illegal...but again that's another topic...
But I fear sooner or later laws also in other countries will soon turn to the dark side and make getting plants like MHRB basically almost impossible, like it is here...
Just saw this thread:

5-meo-dmt extraction - Bufotenine and 5-MeO-DMT - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Unfortunately the end result there is missing...as quite often in these threads... :x

But there they also indicate that it seems 5-MeO-DMT oxidizes quite quickly.
If we see the other extraction threads mentioned above, and take into consideration that 5-MeO-DMT oxide doesn't dissolve in normal NPS', one could well think that if there was quite some 5-MeO-DMT in oxide form, that it wouldn't have ended up in the extract.

So IMHO one should definitely do some extraction tests again on Evodia, but also considering the oxide. Maybe then one would get to the mentioned 0.2% content?
That's actually pretty much, considering it being more potent than DMT (dose-wise similar to 1g DMT).
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