Aged StB: What Happens When You Wait Too Long?

[pantostao]

Hello, travellers, I wanted to share an experiment I conducted (somewhat unintentionally) regarding long-term basification in a standard Straight to Base extraction. While most extractions are completed within days, I left my basified mimosa mixture sitting for six months before proceeding with the extraction. The results were quite interesting:

Experiment Setup:
Materials: Lye, water, MHRB powder, salt, and naphtha.
Procedure: I mixed the lye, water, and powdered MHRB as usual, then added naphtha and let it sit. Initially, I intended to wait only a few weeks to observe any changes, but life got in the way, and I ended up leaving it for around six months before extracting.
Extraction Method: After the long wait, I proceeded as normal. I separated the naphtha with a pipette, performed three water washes with hot water to remove any residual base, and precipitated the extract in the freezer for around 6 hours.

Results:
Appearance: The final product is the dirtiest-looking brown DMT goo I have ever seen.
Texture: It looks like a wet paste rather than the usual crystalline powder. I haven't scraped it yet, so I'm still not sure if it will solidify at some point.
Smell: Despite the dark color, it smells just like normal DMT. There are no signs of unpleasant or chemical odors that sometimes indicate the extraction wasn't as clean as It could be.
Yield: I haven’t scraped it yet, so I’m not sure how the final yield compares to a fresh extraction. I’ll update once I do.
Recrystallization: I haven't tested it yet, but it might be interesting to see if it can be cleaned up with a recrystallization step. Maybe this requires a mini A/B? I'm not sure.

Next Steps:
I’ll scrape it soon and see if it stays gooey or solidifies somewhat.
I might try recrystallizing to see if the brown color is removable.
Has anyone else left an StB mixture for an extended period? If so, what were your results?
Any thoughts on what’s happening chemically over this long period of basification?


What do you think are the causes? I'm wondering if the MHRB has broken down over time, and other plant compounds may have been extracted that normally wouldn’t be present in a short-duration StB extraction.

Here's a couple pictures of the brown extract.

 

[(:Hulius:)]

Hi Pantostao,

I have obtained the same results as yours.
I let some STB jars of MH and Acacia Simplex sitting for some months and when I pulled them with naphta it became red/brown, leaving a brown sandy oily waxy paste when evapped.
Mine remained oily and I used it to enhance some leaves.

Another thing I've noticed in leaving jars for so long is that if there's still some nps, the spice will crystallize within it and form big beautiful shards, really difficult to recover, and often mixed with emulsions if there are any.

 

[pantostao]

Hello again

I scraped the brown paste, which solidified completely. It isnt oily, it looks and feels just like hashish. You can pick it with bare hands and it doesn't melt easily unlike crystal DMT.

The yield was 0.2% of the starting material, but keep in mind that this was only a second pull, the first one (six months ago...) was around 1% of beautiful white crystals. I'll probably do a couple more pulls just to see what happens.

I'm not entirely convinced about smoking this one. It definitely smells like DMT and nothing else. If so, I'm enhancing some leafs too. This doesn't look right for a vape juice mix or e-mesh.

 

[(:Hulius:)]

I've tried using some for making an e-juice but it vaporized really bad and continued burning ang clogging the coil

 

[pantostao]

I've tried using some for making an e-juice but it vaporized really bad and continued burning ang clogging the coil

Yeah, I was worried about that. For now, this will remain as a experiment result.

Has anyone succesfully turned goo into crystals again? I might try a mini A/B for the first time, I've read the acid steps can unwrap these DMT polymers. I don't even want the crystals, I'm just very curious about it.