Pachuco Cadaver
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Akashic Records in hyperspace
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Have you ever tried looking at the akashic records metaphorically? Theres 0 evidence such a new age concoction exists except in the realm of metaphors and reflections.
Have you ever tried looking at the akashic records metaphorically? Theres 0 evidence such a new age concoction exists except in the realm of metaphors and reflections.
The Chr0nn01553ur
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۩ said:
What do you think about channelers?
I once convinced a bunch of people in the chat I was channeling DMT entities when I was drunk a long time ago. 'nuff said.
blacklist666
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No, but I feel the fractal dissociative nautilus shaped spiral I see in hyperspace holds a pictographic memory bank of every experience I've ever had, and remembering the vibrational tennitis I hear in hyperspace helps me to relive the DMT experience, and sometimes depending on the frequency I recall I can access different quadrants of memory.
I find "the near death experience" hemisync tape played while on DXM 2nd plateau had caused me to experience the "life review" experience linearly from birth to now.
In my experience, all people I've known who have claimed to access The "Akashic Records" have never been able to bring back anything relevant to anybody outside of themselves, however on the golden teacher I have gleaned great insight as many others have from all psychedelics I no doubt imagine each person experiences a different internal landscape through which they receive special knowledge & that the crystal halls, white shining pillars, and library arrangements for knowledge within ones self could be where one might use "Akashic Records" as the best term available to ones self to classify this sort of a revelatory experience.
However, If I smoke spice, and take 1-5 months to integrate the experience, I get a slow drizzle of information and insights about myself from my higher self. The ego death experience humbles me to accept what my subconscious is trying to show.
I find "the near death experience" hemisync tape played while on DXM 2nd plateau had caused me to experience the "life review" experience linearly from birth to now.
In my experience, all people I've known who have claimed to access The "Akashic Records" have never been able to bring back anything relevant to anybody outside of themselves, however on the golden teacher I have gleaned great insight as many others have from all psychedelics I no doubt imagine each person experiences a different internal landscape through which they receive special knowledge & that the crystal halls, white shining pillars, and library arrangements for knowledge within ones self could be where one might use "Akashic Records" as the best term available to ones self to classify this sort of a revelatory experience.
However, If I smoke spice, and take 1-5 months to integrate the experience, I get a slow drizzle of information and insights about myself from my higher self. The ego death experience humbles me to accept what my subconscious is trying to show.
The Chr0nn01553ur
Rising Star
۩ said:
Fair enough. I feel you on the Akashic records, but I've had some somewhat compelling things happen to me that lead me to believe differently when it comes to channeling..
۩ said:
I mean, getting drunk and convincing everyone that you're channeling the spirits of dead people is one thing. I should think "channeling DMT entities" is something of a different (and more probable) beast altogether. For one, DMT entities usually communicate with me telepathically. That is to say they use my thought system as a means of communication, so it comes out "sounding" like a thought, but it wasn't "I" who is producing the information or controlling the thought. In this case wouldn't channeling merely be relating the information given to you by the DMT entities to others? This scenario doesn't seem too improbable, and many people do it in their trip reports all the time. Secondly when you smoke DMT, I find it much more likely that the user is communing with DMT entities as opposed to people who haven't taken anything claiming to channel the spirits of whomever. I'm not saying the latter isn't possible, just that the former is much more likely and believable. Perhaps I'm misconstruing the way you're using the term "channeling". If you are referring to entity possession or something of the sort, then I could see your skepticism. Just because you decided to mock a behavior while drunk isn't really any kind of evidence at all as to why channeling is or isn't valid, nor is the fact that others gullibly believed you.
Haha, forgive me, I am jaded and bitter towards feeble new age concepts.
Of course in the light of your semantics Global you could justify the term.
I wasn't thinking about that at the time of the post, I was thinking about all the people believing someone ramble about DNA activation that they channeled thru Xorb from the Sirius area.
I'd agree with you. Don't take me so seriously though. There are always 100 thousand million layers behind every perspective wheeling around shifting modes.
Of course in the light of your semantics Global you could justify the term.
I wasn't thinking about that at the time of the post, I was thinking about all the people believing someone ramble about DNA activation that they channeled thru Xorb from the Sirius area.
I'd agree with you. Don't take me so seriously though. There are always 100 thousand million layers behind every perspective wheeling around shifting modes.
The only books i've read on the akashic field were tryptamine palace, and some book by dr. irvin lazlo. tryptamine palace was great but i don't remember much from Lazlo's book as it was a long time ago,but i think i enjoyed a lot of it ( i like most books though 
). From what i recall basically the akashic field is just another word for the collective unconscious (although more on a cosmic level), the minds antipodes, zero point field, morphogenetic field, ect ect ect pick your favorite term. So in a word- Yea
). From what i recall basically the akashic field is just another word for the collective unconscious (although more on a cosmic level), the minds antipodes, zero point field, morphogenetic field, ect ect ect pick your favorite term. So in a word- Yea
The Chr0nn01553ur
Rising Star
universecannon said:The only books i've read on the akashic field were tryptamine palace, and some book by dr. irvin lazlo. tryptamine palace was great but i don't remember much from Lazlo's book as it was a long time ago,but i think i enjoyed a lot of it ( i like most books though
I can subscribe to this.
universecannon said:
Exactly.
Say Akashic Records, and people piss themselves laughing, but say the same thing using terms like morphogenetic field or holographic universe, and people are all for it.
Strange.
I find the same odd disconnect when people talk about reincarnation & "past lives." A lot of the biggest critics of that kind of "metaphysical mumbo jumbo" turn around and start talking about string theory and the many worlds interpretation without realizing that they are, in essence, saying the same thing. Granted, 11 dimensional theories with multiple worlds are "somewhat" more comprehensive, but they still say that there are infinite versions of you living alternate lives... If someone says they were a ship's captain in a past life, they might be oversimplifying the non-linearity of time, but the MWI insists that this statement is not only possibly true, but that it must be so.
The psychic disconnect is especially extreme when talking about anything that might sound spiritual, religious, or mystical. It is okay to talk about quantum wave forms being collapsed by an observer and manifesting reality because the double slit experiment shows this to be true... but mention that your thoughts can manifest or attract anything bigger than a subatomic particle and you are a nutjob. Because of course consciousness only affects the Universe on a fundamental, sub-microscopic level.
Whatever. I have come to terms with the odd idea that regular entheogen use doesn't necessarily open everyone's mind in the same way.
Perhaps some people simply haven't stumbled into the kind of Hyperspace rooms where vast, infinite amounts of knowledge are downloadable... Having reached such places in lucid dreams, I can say that these experiences people report are not limited to spice-effects.
The fact that hypnosis can get people to recall minute details of their distant past indicates that such information is stored somewhere. If you think all of that stuff is stored in physical cells within your brain, that the entire unconsciousness is a mechanical and chemical construct... that is your right I suppose.
Im not a physicist but from what I understood, it wasnt consciousness that colapsed the wave function, though, it was any observation/manipulation, even if its a machine without anybody present.
Anyways regarding akashic records/collective unconscious, I dont know what to define about it's existence in the typical "objective vs subjective" debate (which for the moment at least its irrelevant to me) but I think its interesting to note that several people have independently had VERY similar experiences around the world, even without having had previously read trip reports or descriptions that would influence their experience. For example, one archetype that seems to come up often enough with spice is "The Circus". I mean, whats up with that? I dont think the DMT molecule contains little circus inside of it, right? So what is it activating in our consciousness that different people will encounter that?
I had a friend who was psychedelic naive, had never read a trip report in life, and came back talkign about circus and clowns, and another also inexperienced person who had never read about it was talking about insectoids. Where is this all coming from? Is there anything we can learn from it?
Anyways regarding akashic records/collective unconscious, I dont know what to define about it's existence in the typical "objective vs subjective" debate (which for the moment at least its irrelevant to me) but I think its interesting to note that several people have independently had VERY similar experiences around the world, even without having had previously read trip reports or descriptions that would influence their experience. For example, one archetype that seems to come up often enough with spice is "The Circus". I mean, whats up with that? I dont think the DMT molecule contains little circus inside of it, right? So what is it activating in our consciousness that different people will encounter that?
I had a friend who was psychedelic naive, had never read a trip report in life, and came back talkign about circus and clowns, and another also inexperienced person who had never read about it was talking about insectoids. Where is this all coming from? Is there anything we can learn from it?
endlessness said:
If we were talking about archaeological records, I am fairly sure people would make the connection. When independent source documents talk about the same things, we tend to assume a common source. The same goes for languages.
Somehow, due to the ramifications of what this evidence is suggesting, people tend to avoid making these connections here.
Since clowns, jesters, tricksters, and circuses are all elements of every culture on the globe... often independently developed... AND the general aesthetic look of them conforms to the visions that are experienced by numerous people when exposed to an ENDOGENOUS chemical... a chemical that surely predates any society we know of... as well as any circus or human jester... the only logical conclusion here is that clowns, jesters, circuses, and the like are humanities way of copying what they see & have seen in Hyperspace. The idea that the Hyperspace jesters antecede physical ones is frightening to many because it lends credence to the idea that such beings are independent and real... after all, is it really more rational to believe that clowns are hardwired into the human CNS?
The same argument could be made for dragons, elves, gnomes and other omni-present mythological figures. (Not to mention angels and gods)
People don't really want to follow this road where it leads... they would rather act like we have no evidence, or can not know such things.
BTW, there is no such thing as observation without consciousness. Schrödinger's Cat is a perfect example. Until someone either opens the box, or observes the machines set up to observe for them... the wave could still be uncollapsed. We have no way of knowing if a machine can collapse a wave form without our then observing the machine.
The Chr0nn01553ur
Rising Star
Hyperspace Fool said:
Wait, what? You lost me there. Could you elaborate?
What I am saying is that it is typical of humans to not even open the door to entertaining ideas that seem threatening or challenging. When someone's sense of self is assaulted, the egoic reaction is often quite knee-jerk. And, questioning basic assumptions or deeply held beliefs is perceived by the ego as an attack.The Chr0nn01553ur said:
This is silly, but it is how humans often behave. People don't often even know why they oppose something vehemently, they just feel that it is wrong... and dangerous. Many times when people label an idea "dangerous" they are acting out of self-defense. Obviously, ideas can not be contained, and are not inherently dangerous... they can lead to dangerous actions on the part of people who entertain them, but they are, in and of themselves, neutral.
My feeling is that anything that could be threatened by an idea or a challenge is not very strong or stable and should probably be replaced. Thus, if creationists, for example, find evolution threatening... they probably need to work on their theory some more. (whether it is true or not)
If someone's sense of self is so flimsy that the very idea that perhaps hyperspace and its proto-mythical denizens might be ostensibly real is a threat that must be met with scorn and repression... then perhaps one's fundamental beliefs are not all that solid.
I, personally try to avoid faith or belief... even hope irks me a bit. As an experiental mystic (among other things), I prefer direct experience as evidence... and lengthy experimentation as the basis of interpretation.
Anyway, I will just say that beliefs like the objective reality of a material universe, non-existence of spirits or invisible (unknown) forces, or the like, are some of the strongest held and fiercest defended. You see a lot of people who will choose to ignore evidence challenging such theories... just as you see a lot of people who willfully ignore evidence of things like conspiracies. This is because they don't really want to contemplate the changes they would have to make to their worldview should such challenging concepts prove to be true.
If you are threatened by theories... IMHO, you need to seriously increase the empirical and experiential basis for your worldview.
Just saying.
Completely agree Hyperspace Fool.
This sounds amazing! You say infinite knowledge. Could you in theory "download" a theory of everything or a cure for cancer or view a future event? Profound information like this could benefit mankind greatly and prove that the Akashic Records (whatever you call them) do in fact exist.
Pachuco Cadaver
Rising Star
well what about good ol' omniscience?
I've never heard of the akashic records before. I have seen texts, words, and letters during my trips though. They would glow, spin, grow large and jump out at me. So much, however, it was jumbled and overwhelming. Nothing I could make out unfortunately. It most resembled sanskrit. I have even had the same experience during sleep paralysis.
Just two days ago, coming out of a session of a particularly bright and noisy sleep paralysis, I sat up in my bed, smiling to myself as I watched the vivid picture in my head as it slowly and silently faded away into the blackness of my closed eyelids...it was of a vast collection of newspapers and novels spread across my entire field of vision on a giant long library table. It even had maps on there too. Only earth maps.
That's something that tends to happen to me on sleep paralysis. It's loud during the experience, then when I wake up and can move again, the sound cuts off. Though dimming, the picture's still running, but it's like someone pulled out the audio cables out the back of the tv.
Just two days ago, coming out of a session of a particularly bright and noisy sleep paralysis, I sat up in my bed, smiling to myself as I watched the vivid picture in my head as it slowly and silently faded away into the blackness of my closed eyelids...it was of a vast collection of newspapers and novels spread across my entire field of vision on a giant long library table. It even had maps on there too. Only earth maps.
That's something that tends to happen to me on sleep paralysis. It's loud during the experience, then when I wake up and can move again, the sound cuts off. Though dimming, the picture's still running, but it's like someone pulled out the audio cables out the back of the tv.
Hyperspace Fool said:
I've wrestled with similar concepts in regards to Egypt. I have visions that have remarkable Egyptian imagery (no one ever told me Egypt would show up in my trips, though after having the experiences, and reading through on the forums, I'm clearly not alone). It's remarkable just what kind of images and how detailed they are show up. In one experience where I was actually planning on smoking DMT inside and quickly moving outside to my back porch to view the sunset (had to take the hits inside because it was too windy to light it outside), I never quite made it out because I found myself in the heart of a pyramid with little men walking about inside, tending to whatever matters a hyperdimensional pyramid needs tending to and then in the center of my vision were 4 of those Pharaoh sarcophagus-looking things. They all had all the details in the perfect places, looking like King Tut's sarcophagus, except in 5D as they interdimensionally would shift and fold through each other. That was my first encounter with hyper-Egypt but it certainly wouldn't be my last.
In any manner, it has lead me to a sort of dilemma that's hard to come to any kind of definitive answer for. The Egyptians (especially as according to Dr. Carmen Boulter who wrote the Pyramid Code) used mind altering plants (such as the blue lotus) in combination with their meditation techniques to attain higher states of consciousness. Now from the way I look at it, they could have gone into these other states of consciousness, observed similar phenomena that I've witnessed, and then accordingly replicated their visions throughout their society. On the other hand, I may also be witnessing this Egyptian imagery from time to time because the Egyptians already existed, and because of which their culture is embedded in the akashic records which I access through hyperspace. It's the sort of thing that my sheer reasoning cannot make conclusive to any degree and because of which, I'm hoping that perhaps an Egyptian entity will let me in on the truth (or at least what he claims to be the truth) sooner or later.
