alien intelligence, getting caught in the loop

[Sublime]

I just had an intense experience, one that I have had a familiar experience with. I am talking about the alien intelligence that could be responsible for our entire existence. The reason I am bringing this up is because of the somewhat terrifying, confusing mindfuck experience I had earlier today. I took a couple hits and laid down on my back afterward and was immediately "taken." I was going being put into some heavy trance and felt I was undergoing a sort of transformation. I felt I was in the presence of some very intelligent mental creature. There were geometric patterns and fractal imagery that was unfolding in and out of eachother in some type of landscape of colors and shapes. This creature was my whole being at this point, all there is or was, time did not exist. I believe I was getting caught in a loop, again, and it was presenting itself in a serious manner, showing me what the true nature of reality is, and it was terrifying. Life was one big joke and there is no question or answer, it is an eternal, cosmic joke and then I would fall further into mental digression and sort of panic. Then I was presented more information to download. Then it would present the same scenario again, over and over, I came out of it only 30 seconds later and didn't know where I was or what I was doing, and life was one big joke. Was that real or is this? I was pacing around so confused as to what I was doing here, what existence really is, and if this joke this alien intelligence showed to me, being so overpowering that it has to be true? Has anyone had an experience like this where there is a higher intelligence playing games on you and convincing you that its all a joke? I am not gonna let this define what DMT does, because I know I just got caught or stuck in that moment, but that was too crazy.

I am hoping to just blow this off or dismiss it as no big deal, and understand I did not break through and needed to take another hit. So next time I will measure it out and use a vaporizer instead of a glass pipe so I know what I am getting.

 

[Spira]

This might interest you Opti and I

 

[universecannon]

This might interest you Opti and I

from the opti and I thread in the quality reports section:

Yes, I remember reading this a couple years ago it truly is a great piece of writing. It has such truth and mystery to it, you have no idea what is real and what is possible. Science (non)fiction at its best. Razz It definitely has had some influence on my own thoughts about different things such as archetypes, hyperspace, and metaphysics. Had no idea it was a Nexian who wrote it..awesome.

heheh, seems he's read it :d

sublime- Hyperspace mental loops are one of the most intense and mind boggling things a human can experience in my opinion..like you said, over thinking about this can lead to some deranged places. I like to just juggle the possibilities after the experience without attaching too much to either one (although sometimes that's impossible because the message is so direct). I also often get the impression that this entire reality is a sort of joke, in a sense at least...but in a very positive sense!

 

[Coastal_Shaman]

Sounds to me like you broke through, what makes you so sure that you did not? By the sounds of that trip anyways...

 

[Sublime]

Hmm interesting. Well I am pretty sure because this happened all behind closed eyelids but I did not feel I was being shot through or burst through anything. It was happening all in my head or something. I was still in a room of some sort but this was something I got caught in messing with my mind, a sense of deja vu and how life was a joke. I have heard how sub breakthroughs are sometime rough or uncomfortable, so I know I need to go beyond all that stuff and actually enter hyperspace.

 

[Global]

I get the loops from time to time and now that I think about it, it is with the entities fairly often. I don't know about them convincing me that there's a cosmic joke, but I can empathize with you and it can be frustrating and confusing. Getting caught in one of those loops is the easiest way to sort of disengage you from reality, turn you around a couple times, and you've completely forgotten how you got into this situation in the first place. If I get stuck in a loop that doesn't look like I'm gonna get out of, and it's not even an interesting one at that, I'll most likely open my eyes and see how I can finish the experience while trying to make the best of OEVs.

 

[Sublime]

Thank you for the advice. Just such a bizarre thing. Like existence was denominated down to some very simple principle and procedure. Like there was no way in hell I could live knowing that. Haha, I should just laugh about it. I think I should let go a little more so I can move forward. I wonder what the next time is going to hold for me, I will try again.

 

[tele]

I feel like "joke" is simply another interprentation for the unexplainable, infinite and weird as anything can be.

...Life that is.
No need to take your trips too seriously, even if life would be a "joke". It would be just another reason to take it easy!

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

... time did not exist. I believe I was getting caught in a loop, again, and it was presenting itself in a serious manner, showing me what the true nature of reality is, and it was terrifying. Life was one big joke and there is no question or answer, it is an eternal, cosmic joke and then I would fall further into mental digression and sort of panic. Then I was presented more information to download. Then it would present the same scenario again, over and over, I came out of it only 30 seconds later and didn't know where I was or what I was doing, and life was one big joke. Was that real or is this? I was pacing around so confused as to what I was doing here, what existence really is, and if this joke this alien intelligence showed to me, being so overpowering that it has to be true? Has anyone had an experience like this where there is a higher intelligence playing games on you and convincing you that its all a joke?

Well... our best understanding of time at the moment is that it is a dimension. Thus, it doesn't exist in the manner we experience it as 3d entities cruising linearly through the 4th dimension.

In fact, from the higher dimensional perspective of Hyperspace, life here is a joke... and fairly well meaningless. Only what we take from it and how it affects our consciousness is important. Just like with dreams.

A 5th dimensional being would look at our world the way we look at a comic book.

This is not terrifying or a need for painic. On the contrary, it is merely a confirmation of what most mystics and spiritual philosophies have always said... namely that this world is an illusion. Taking it too seriously is the cause of all suffering.

Of course, this is not to say that there is nothing worth doing here... you did choose to manifest here after all. Perhaps joke is not the best word for it. I prefer Cosmic Dream Theater.

 

[Tek]

Well... our best understanding of time at the moment is that it is a dimension. Thus, it doesn't exist in the manner we experience it as 3d entities cruising linearly through the 4th dimension.

In fact, from the higher dimensional perspective of Hyperspace, life here is a joke... and fairly well meaningless. Only what we take from it and how it affects our consciousness is important. Just like with dreams.

A 5th dimensional being would look at our world the way we look at a comic book.

This is not terrifying or a need for painic. On the contrary, it is merely a confirmation of what most mystics and spiritual philosophies have always said... namely that this world is an illusion. Taking it too seriously is the cause of all suffering.

Of course, this is not to say that there is nothing worth doing here... you did choose to manifest here after all. Perhaps joke is not the best word for it. I prefer Cosmic Dream Theater.

Excellent comment Hyperspace Fool and I couldn't agree with you more. From the perspective of a resident of hyperspace, it's been revealed to me that we 'make good TV' for them.

To your original post Sublime, I've had the cosmic banana cream pie shoved in my face as well and I didn't like it much when it happened lol Coming to the stark realization that my life here on Earth is actually some sort of impossible to understand simulation that ME (big me) is having just for the hell of it... well needless to say it did a number on my ego. However, like several other harsh awakenings I've had, eventually you get to a point where it doesn't bother you so much. Yeah, life's kind of a joke when you're shown who you really are and where you really come from but in the truest sense you're in on the joke. You're playing the joke on yourself and since that's the case, you shouldn't let it bother you too much.

If this is any consolation to you at all, I've had my personal guide discuss this with me once. I made the case that life on Earth is hard enough and to be shown rather abruptly that all my struggles amount to pretty much nothing is too much for my ego to take. The being reassured me that, even though it's really hard to me to understand while I'm still living on earth, it's actually very, very enjoyable to do this to myself. It's a fun game, that's what Teo (my guide) told me. Eventually, when your sick of playing this game, this cosmic joke, you can move on and do something else. That's what death was revealed to me as; a portal to another game, another joke, on and on for infinity.

The buddhists have an old saying that when you've achieved Samadhi the only thing left for you to do is have a good laugh. I bet when you have some time to bite down on this trip and let it really sink in, you'll get the cosmic giggle too

 

[Sublime]

However, like several other harsh awakenings I've had, eventually you get to a point where it doesn't bother you so much. Yeah, life's kind of a joke when you're shown who you really are and where you really come from but in the truest sense you're in on the joke. You're playing the joke on yourself and since that's the case, you shouldn't let it bother you too much.

Good points Hyperspace Fool, perhaps there should be no deviation between a joke and seriousness. I understand higher dimensions leave little interpretation. Thanks guys I do suppose my mind created this bizarre vision, I am in on the joke or it wouldn't be one..I will have no problem letting this one pass over without much thought, no worries. I suppose we will never know much of anything.

“True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us.” - Socrates

 

[Global]

I understand higher dimensions leave little interpretation.

I disagree. It seems to me that the higher dimensions throw the doors wide open for a full battery of interpretations

 

[haxxorz]

Ive been experiencing crazy similar stuff lately. Meeting this hyperspace intelligence.
He keeps showing me all sorts of craziness about humans and this world.
Supporting the idea of a upcoming revolution/transformation period in some way.
Relationships with objects and forces. Showing the organismic state of everything that seemed "lifeless" before.
Seems in other dimensions there are entities/forces/realities which influence, or get influenced by, our minds/existence.

Last time i broke through, i escaped time for a while when it would let me take my fist own baby-steps towards enlightenment.
My mind free, tho unstable, and when i was pulled back in, it felt imprisoning. As if a set of rules was forced back upon me.

It always shows me it is not the cause merely the platform. Might be a trick tho. It is The Trickster.
Like when in nature 2 species become dependent of each other, the parasite that feeds but is in fact also being beneficial to the host
It has no interest in stopping this relationship, so likes to stay hidden, but wont let things get out of control (aka let the host die),
seems to me things are getting out of control atm hence it wants to communicate. Creating knights of awareness!
It talks to me in symbols, however some voices/languages can be a symbol to some too. So it can speak i guess.

Interesting fact is, when it showed me whatever i would ask it to show me (that was very fun and in UltraColor High Definition hehe),
at some point i asked him to show myself, and it couldnt.... how much it tried it just couldnt, hahaha,
Then at some point it tried to trick me by showing brief flashes of a me-lookalike symbol lol, when i would focus on it it would quickly dissappear, hahaha what a devious one!
So it cant show me my own image huh? i asked him to show my symbol, it would drop tons of symbols on me DESCRIBING me,
my style, my character, my needs, but no symbol for me...

Then i realised i'd never seen my own face... ok ive seen my mirror image, but a mirror image is not you (read some deep stuff about mirrors and you will know, its actually the reversed you), so i asked him can you show my mirror image? and bam there it was ..... true story!


Either something like the above, something completely different or i am becoming schizophrenic

 

[Tek]

Hax I've had a similar epiphany with regards to wanting to 'see it for itself'. This was an experiment that Terence talked about in one of his lectures. He said a good thing to try is to see if you can KNOW THE THING FOR ITSELF. He said that while in communication with the alien other, ask it the simple question "Who are you for yourself?" and wait and see what happens.

I've done this, and the result is most puzzling. Like Terence said would happen, there is an ominous overtone that sort of strikes up, things become quiet and still, and it's almost like the trip stops and the OTHER has to contemplate itself. It is so convinced of it's own solipism that it DOESN'T HAVE AN ANSWER to the question! Sometimes I get the feeling that that's what this whole thing is about, life on Earth I mean, that this alien other is searching for a way to define itself THROUGH us somehow. There is some trick to the development of the ego that sedates the other's quest to define itself, at least for awhile, and allows it to forget itself and relax in a disguise that has a form and definition.

I've gotten really emotional about this before, because when you do this experiment you get the impression that the truth of the matter is this being, this alien OTHER, is terribly lonely. It is the only one of it's kind in existence, there is nothing outside of itself, so the only way to get around this eternal lonliness is to forget and lose yourself in an aspect of creation for as long as you can. When I think about this too much, I get really sad because that's a horrible truth if indeed it is true.

The only silver lining is that one time I did this experiment and became very heart broken for the lonliness of the OTHER, yet it sort of chuckled at my human emotion and downloaded to my understanding 'Don't you worry about me kid, everything is just fine.'

 

[MooshyPeaches]

if it is a joke; laugh

 

[Vent01]

Thank you for the advice. Just such a bizarre thing. Like existence was denominated down to some very simple principle and procedure. Like there was no way in hell I could live knowing that. Haha, I should just laugh about it. I think I should let go a little more so I can move forward. I wonder what the next time is going to hold for me, I will try again.

Occam's razor with a twist of hyper-dimensional sarcasm perhaps? What the entity shared with you might very well be the truth. I would not be surprised if the entirety of existence and reality as we know it in three dimensions is based on a simplistic ideal. Though, that does not assuage the importance we give our lives. From that entity's perspective and knowledge, it decided to present you with its' view. Was it the one that portrayed it as a "joke" or did you?

This reminds me of my issue with depression. I watch Louis CK and laugh at his description of fatherhood and his reality. Maybe the entity was trying to do something similar. Leave you with a deeper message by providing the truth as a joke.

Alright, enough rambling.

Also I agree with MooshyPeaches:

if it is a joke; laugh

 

[PrimalWisdom]

Hey Sublime

I’ve had similar experiences with this “cosmic joke” It’s such a simple concept/idea that I go “How did I miss this my entire life???” and in a moment its gone again. I find I tend to think that there are these beings that know the ultimate truth and give us clues along the way, when I’m completely immersed in a psychedelic experience these clues are a lot easier to spot and I put 2 & 2 together until I click and realise what’s actually going on, but as I said its gone in a split second, and I’m left feeling like the whole universe/s (these beings?) are laughing at me for even trying to understand it.

The strangest experience I had with this “joke” was during a fairly strong acid trip – I went to “acidscape” (that’s what I call the place I go to when you lose touch with my body on acid) I had stumbled into an arena where these “gods” where playing, zooming around the space on sound waves, that sort of thing. I got spotted by them, one of them raced up to me and gave me hell for being there, at this point I was terrified, and just sobbed and asked to go home. When I first got there I knew everything. I mean EVERYTHING, life, the universe blah blah blah it just all made sense like everything was laid out in front of me. But these beings clearly didn’t want me to know what was going on. There was a song playing, like a rhyme/riddle and the punch line was the truth, the truth about everything. I heard the song to completion, but I never heard the last few words properly (like a bad signal when talking on a mobile) and that’s when all the beings spotted me, they burst out laughing hysterically, and then the being came racing over. Again I felt like they were laughing at me for trying to grasp this very simple concept, I was so scared by this point that I just really wanted to leave. To say that trip occupied my thoughts for a long time is an understatement.

It was one of the weirdest things I have ever experienced. I tend to dismiss them as the rantings of a mad man. But they still bug me to this day. What is this “joke”? are we IT? Are we part of it? Aren’t we supposed to know it? These are some of the things I fall asleep thinking about.

Anyway yeah, just the rantings of a madman

Peace

PW

 

[unclesyd]

but life is just a big joke. maybe that created the loop, you fighting the information given to you. Instead of immediatly realizing this and you yourself break down for the biggest laugh of your life, you fought this idea you thought was conflicting with your previous notions.

People have the biggest problems when they try to over-analyze/fight/reject/etc the notions put out there from the ether/your hyperspacialbeing. JUST GO WITH THE FLOW. I always tout the psycedelic experience a manual based on the tibetan book of the dead. I feel too many voyagers are doing themselves a great harm by not reading and heading this books knowledge. I have taken myself to great heights of awareness by devoting myself to the principles put forth in this teaching.

The struggles of this life are what cleanses our souls of our bad karma. All your suffering is ultimatley created by yourself, but if you lead a good life threw the suffering your bad karma from previous lives will eventually work itself out.

I don't think its a good idea to ask questions in such a state, especially for novices. This could really lead to some bad results. How do you know the quietness that arises from this is not the entity getting pissed for you questioning their great intelligence.

In summation, just go with the flow, you will have a time to analyze and question your experience afterwards, doing so during is dangerous. And next time if they tell you to laugh, then laugh dammit!!! ha ha:lol:

Here though is a question that is safe for all users, ask them if I AM here?????8) Okay maybe not, but I am interested if anyone else is getting this vibe that the lord has/is about to be released/awoken. I know lots of folks feel this great shift upon us, to me this is it.

And happy trails to you, untill we meet again.............