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Alternative carrier oils?

triaxiom

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Recently had some very HQ MHRB, and the freebase has been beyond anything I've ever experienced

Normally as fond as I am of DMT I do NOT and will not ever like the body high. The current freebase when vaped within the first 24-48 hours completely negates that and almost flavours the vape with an amazing almost floral taste (I'm aware that sounds entirely counter intuitive) It's extremely pleasant, and has been unlike any prior DMT experience.

I am fully physically and/or mentally ME but in a DMT space/engagement....

BUT!

After that 24-48 hour period. It returns to just 'standard' DMT experience. I can only guess the PG/VG mix (I mix personally at 1 : VG / 2 : PG) changes it chemically.... and so very much to it's detriment.

QUESTION: What (if any) alternatives are there to PG / VG for vaping oils?
 
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flavours the vape with an amazing almost floral taste (I'm aware that sounds entirely counter intuitive)
Not at all - DMT does indeed have a faint floral aroma with hints of fruit when it's very nearly pure. I love it!

Regarding the juice, a favorite here is to make a DMT citrate 'honey' (search for "HIELO") and use that in PG for a smooth vaping experience. Some observations point to it being the metal in the coils that causes the flavour of the vape to degrade. Perhaps your new bark was simply very fresh, so the initial phase of (admittedly somewhat mysterious) changes had not started, unlike in the case of older bark.
 
Not at all - DMT does indeed have a faint floral aroma with hints of fruit when it's very nearly pure. I love it!

Regarding the juice, a favorite here is to make a DMT citrate 'honey' (search for "HIELO") and use that in PG for a smooth vaping experience. Some observations point to it being the metal in the coils that causes the flavour of the vape to degrade. Perhaps your new bark was simply very fresh, so the initial phase of (admittedly somewhat mysterious) changes had not started, unlike in the case of older bark.
Superb. Very much appreciated.
 
I have used pure PEG400 and DMT freebase as vape liquid, but I've not compared directly against ordinary PG / VG as I'm not a very frequent flier. It's certainly as good, possibly smoother.

Maybe a little slower to dissolve, if I remember correctly, but not in any way difficult. The mixing vessel just needed a bit of a run under the hot tap to speed things along and satisfy my impatience :)

Harmala freebase is also allegedly soluble in PEG400, not tried that either, but it's on the list :)

<edit> a few more details: I dissolved 750mg of freebase in 1.5ml of PEG400 to make a fill for my 2ml vaporesso veco tank. Worked nicely, one ten second draw at 20W had closed and open eye viuals going, but I was still very much "here". Grass could be seen to be growing before my eyes ( but also not actually getting any longer ... weird! ) , symmetrical glyphs appeared in the grassy hillside in the middle distance, trees looked very alive indeed. Friends report similar effects. Similar to ~10mg e-mesh vaping of freebase.

I've not tried really going for it yet, but it feels like two long drags in a row would start to overwhelm reality and send me elsewhere.
 
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