an enhanced leaf question

[frogwarrior83]

hi,

I am a new member. I made an enhanced leaf, but it isn't changa. It is 50% DMT and 50% cannabis. I was wondering if this would be a good blend for a dmt newbie in order to have a strong breakthrough experience?

I have yet to try this enhanced leaf. I've read here and elsewhere that many people's experience is that the cannabis "clouds" or interferes in some way with the DMT experience; whereas others have said that the two produce a great synergy. I hope it is a good blend. I still have a few grams of pure spice left and would like to try that on it's own which I have not yet done. But I hope I didn't waste a whole gram of dmt in making this enhanced leaf with cannabis?

Does anyone have any advice as to how I should proceed? Thank you!

 

[TGO]

Hello and welcome!

Personally, I prefer a more inert herb such as mullein but don't let that discourage you! With the cannabis/DMT enhanced leaf combo it really boils down to personal preference. I have two reasons why I don't use cannabis with DMT. The first is because weed makes me cough and it is important to keep hits containing DMT in for 15-30 seconds each. The second is that it alters the trip for me in a sort of paranoid way, making it less enjoyable.

All that being said, I want to stress again, that this is just my personal preference. By no means should you discard what you have made because it is perfectly usable as is. Try it out and see how you feel about it. I'd recommend smoking it out of a bong, bubbler, or percolator. Weed was my first medium for enhanced leaf and I had some interesting experiences with it. These days, however, I prefer to be completely free of any substances before taking DMT because, for me, it brings about a better sense of clarity in a nonsensical environment (or completely sensical environment, depending on the trip itself, :d ).

Good luck!

 

[frogwarrior83]

dear "The grateful one",

thank you for this wonderful advice! Its true I am new to DMT and maybe should not have made an enhanced leaf with cannabis. I also would prefer to be completely "clean" of any substance when entering the DMT space. But at the time of making this blend I really thought it would be a good idea.

Now I have a conundrum; I want to experience a powerufl dmt breakthrough experience, yet I don't want to be under the influence of another poweful plant at the same time (cannabis).

I had made an enhanced leaf with peppermint leaves as well, and although it wasn't a great blend really, I did have a few powerful experiences with it, two extremely positive, and one very terrifying. But I did not break through! With the peppermint leaves blend I took several tokes over the course of one and a half hour, but kind of stayed at a certain level of inebriation, but could not breakthrough.

I have an awesome glass vaporizer now dedicated to DMT use; would loading like 40 mg dmt in that pipe and heating the bulb with a torch lighter be a good way of breaking through in one or two hits?

thanks for your advices!

 

[TGO]

Just a couple of thoughts:

Typically, to breakthrough, you have to get your hits (2-3) in your lungs within a minute or so. Tolerance builds quite rapidly after the initial inhale and most people report that they can't breakthrough again for about an hour. That isn't the case for everyone, although right now, that point is neither here nor there.

What sort of glass vaporizer is it? It sounds similar to what a meth pipe is like (glass tube with bulb on end)...? If so, you want a device that uses convection not conduction when it comes to DMT (vapor genie, glass vapor genie, etc. etc.). You do not want to heat the DMT directly through contact with the glass. Heating directly destroys the DMT. Don't get me wrong, it can be done with that sort of pipe but it tends to be much more difficult and product often gets wasted. But this is all speculation because I do not know exactly what sort of pipe you have.

Lastly, 40mg of DMT vaporized efficiently is considered a rather hefty dose. I can't tell you what you should or shouldn't do of course, but I would recommend starting with 20mg and increasing by 5mg when you feel comfortable with each increment. This will also help you develop your vaping efficiency/technique.

 

[frogwarrior83]

Hi again the grateful one and thanks for your helpful advices.

This is the pipe that I have:

https://www.grasscity.com/us_en/glasspipe-traveller-2.html

It's called "glasspipe traveller 2"

I really thought that this pipe would be perfect for vaping dmt.

I think I cannot let go, I am too afraid to, which is why I did not breakthrough on dmt. Actually, also I think it's because I did not inhale a sufficinet amount of dmt within the limited timeframe like you said.

It's too bad, I really thought that the dmt path would be a path for me. I still have a generous amount of dmt and enhanced leaf but do not think that I will be using it anytime soon. I wish I could have a cosmic enlightenment experience.

I thought I read somewhere on this site that 40-50 mg was considered a standard breakthrough dose?

Hopefully I can meet with dmt again but I don't know when that will be, I just don't ever feel ready.

 

[TGO]

Don't be discouraged, my friend! A lot of us here at the Nexus have similar views on letting go and how difficult it is. It is always easier said than done. I have several experience reports posted in the DMT Experience section related to fear and letting go if you are interested. I enjoy writing out the experiences because it helps me come to terms with what happened:

Do What You Will, I'm Letting Go
Fear and Respect

As for that pipe, it might actually work but I'm not 100% sure. If the DMT is placed in the cone shape, and then the outer glass is heated, it may be enough to vaporize without burning it since the inner cone won't be heated directly. Only way to find out is to try!

Best wishes!