An Unidentified Acacia

[Endeavor]

So here's some photos i took of an acacia, sorry for bad quality it was a camera phone.
Keep in mind it was wet weather, bark and leaves are quite moist so might apear darker than normal in some of the photos, also seems the rain beat up the flowers pretty good, they'd probly be more fluffy and junk if they were dry.

Anyone know what this is??
I'm leaning towards maybe maidenii or longifolia

Thanks for having a look

 

[nen888]

..Endeavor, these links are showing blank pages for me..
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[Endeavor]

oh thanks for letting me know, I was worried that might happen

I'm changing it now

 

[nen888]

..i would say you have a form of A. maidenii..there are a few subforms..this looks intermediate between the super-active narrow leaf strain (flower, leaf colour and bark texture) and the less or not so active wide-leaf variety..check that the pods (when they form) are coiled/spiralled c.4-5mm wide
..if the pods are straightish you may have A. jullifera (not well explored), but it is more north of Newcastle, or a form of A. dallachiana (Vic,SE NSW)

probably a good tree to explore Endeavor, pruning large single branches or collecting leaf & twig (up to 0.7% alkaloid in one maidenii) is the most friendly to the tree's long term health & survival...

 

[Endeavor]

Awsome, thanks, do you have a recomended teq for a first timer?

so you think i should extract from leaves and twigs and not the bark? i understand that thats way better for the tree but i thought that often the bark contains the DMT

 

[dehingoli]

Please post pic of pods for better ID.

 

[Endeavor]

I think I'll be waiting a few months before any pods start to show up...

 

[nen888]

Endeavor wrote

so you think i should extract from leaves and twigs and not the bark? i understand that thats way better for the tree but i thought that often the bark contains the DMT

in the active A. maidenii there can be as much if not more alakloid in the leaves (0.7%), in most species of acacia the leaves contain about half as much alkaloid as bark..
..harvesting large amounts of bark can long term kill a tree..

the bark of a large branch is equivalent to the main trunk bark in content..
phyllodes BTW are actually not true leaves but an extension of the bark...

 

[Endeavor]

UPDATE: The seed pods have emerged!

They are very young, they are only a few inches long, very very thin, sort of roundish in circumfrence and green at the moment. I'm not sure weather to say if they are straight or curly, they sort of bend in random directions, these are the only pictures i could find that looks a little bit like them;

Like these exept more bendy:

http://us.cdn1.123rf.com/168nwm/ecosnap/ecosnap0704/ecosnap070400022/885567-pods-of-an-african-acacia-tree-against-a-black-background.jpg

like these expet thinner and a little less bendy:

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I would post pictures of the actual pods but i didnt have my phonee/camera on me at the time and i dont think I'll be there again for a while

also i think i noticed wierd little wort like growths on the pods, just little green bumps, this just might be the tree having weird genetics or a disease or insect's homes, or maybe i just saw it on a strange angle, i only got a breif look at it.

also still wonderign which teq i should use, suggestion?

 

[cheif hobo stank]

100% not maidenii.

General whereabouts of the tree would help greatly! I am guessing its north of the central coast NSW. I would say this specimen is much more likely to be a member of the group containing concurrens, crassa, leiocalyx, longispica.

 

[cheif hobo stank]

... I am leaning more towards concurrens or leiocalyx.

concurrens should have a pulvinus "mostly 5-9mm long"
leiocalyx should have a pulvinus "mostly 3-4mm long"

 

[nen888]

..always great to get some acacia ID characters in here cheif hobo stank, good diagnosis..

 

[Endeavor]

Yes, Northern NSW, thats a shame you dont think its active, I still might post pictures of the seed pods later just to be sure