Blackandblue
Rising Star
I was browsing the Looking Glass subforum. Somebody posted something about their objection to the DMT movement. It was..weird.
Anyway, all the responses basically ridiculed the article and it was very quickly dismissed as bullshit. I suspect the same, but maybe we can talk it out some more!
'As "condensed death particles," then, entheogens attack the nervous system, targeting specifically the neurons, not only of the brain but of the entire body, within which more and more neurological systems are being discovered (such as in the heart and intestines). This "attack" of the psychotropic molecules upon our neurons is not without intent, however, and so far as I can intuit, their intent is to hijack the cells of our bodies and use them and vehicles to cross over from "death" into "life." By "death" I refer to the inorganic realms, where the organic realms pertain to what we know of as "life.".
I just want to repost my favourite reply for easy reference:
"What follows in this article is not based on hard science or accepted facts about brain or body chemistry and entheogens. It is a mixture of personal experience, deductive reasoning, and something I can only describe as "received knowledge," so the reader is advised to add a "maybe" or "it seems to me" to the end of every sentence, in order to counteract the otherwise authoritative tone of the piece, necessary for clarity and succinctness.
Having offered up that disclaimer, here's the premise of my argument: If Castaneda's don Juan is correct, and death is the active force in life, then psychedelic substances are a form of concentrated death. Even ordinary observation indicates that death regenerates life and keeps things moving forward; without it there is no evolution, no advance. Poetically speaking, Death provides the urgency of Time within the tapestry of Eternity. That is why Chronos, the Lord of Time, is depicted as the Grim Reaper. Time is the catalyst of Motion added to the "substance" of Space. This concept is clearly illustrated in Atu 13 of Aleister Crowley's and Frieda Harris' Thoth tarot deck. "
Ok, so now:
Can I confirm that the following is a personal relation and not grounded in the science of dmt?
"Shamanically speaking, to smoke DMT or ingest any other hallucinogen is to offer up our cells as a sacrifice to the spirits. By such sacrifice, we are allowing our consciousness to be possessed by mysterious and invisible agents of transformation. When we ingest a psychoactive substance, a number of our neurons are "destroyed," which is to say, broken down to their basic constituents. In the moment of destruction, they become "food" for inorganic intelligences to gain temporary substance in our organic realm of existence, via our consciousness. There is a moment of overlap between the worlds of life and death, the temporal and the eternal. As part of us "dies," it is absorbed by the spirit-intelligences residing in the plant or chemical, intelligences which (we can only imagine) are seeking an experience of organic existence otherwise unavailable to them. (Since plants are organic life forms, it might be more accurate to say they are seeking a different, more sentient kind of organic experience.) In those brief moments or hours, while our neurons are being consumed by the entheogen, they are still connected to our conscious selves, to the nervous system and neural network. As a result, we get to consciously experience existence "on the other side," through the eyes of the spirits; at the same time, the spirits are able to experience life through our eyes. This form of ritual sacrifice is an ancient exchange, possibly the oldest one of all.
In Ketamine: Dreams and Realities, Karl Jansen writes, "LSD and DMT bind to serotonin receptors and this is thought to push the start button for a cascade of events resulting in a psychedelic trip."[1] To the extent that psychedelics bind to and thereby alter the receptor sites, the question arises: what does this alteration of the nervous system allow us to receive? The kind of energy that is received via the altered receptor sites, as well as the amount, would perhaps be determined not merely by what is being ingested (the chemicals in the plant), but also by the circumstances under which it taken and -- perhaps most critically of all -- the psychological make-up of the person ingesting. Native Americans doing peyote or Peruvians shamans (and their clientele) taking ayahuasca would then be an entirely different affair to Westerners aspiring to become master Magi or seeking congress with the divine, while having little clue what they are doing and little or no relationship to the plant/chemical (and residing spirit) being ingested. "
Anyway, all the responses basically ridiculed the article and it was very quickly dismissed as bullshit. I suspect the same, but maybe we can talk it out some more!
'As "condensed death particles," then, entheogens attack the nervous system, targeting specifically the neurons, not only of the brain but of the entire body, within which more and more neurological systems are being discovered (such as in the heart and intestines). This "attack" of the psychotropic molecules upon our neurons is not without intent, however, and so far as I can intuit, their intent is to hijack the cells of our bodies and use them and vehicles to cross over from "death" into "life." By "death" I refer to the inorganic realms, where the organic realms pertain to what we know of as "life.".
I just want to repost my favourite reply for easy reference:
"What follows in this article is not based on hard science or accepted facts about brain or body chemistry and entheogens. It is a mixture of personal experience, deductive reasoning, and something I can only describe as "received knowledge," so the reader is advised to add a "maybe" or "it seems to me" to the end of every sentence, in order to counteract the otherwise authoritative tone of the piece, necessary for clarity and succinctness.
Having offered up that disclaimer, here's the premise of my argument: If Castaneda's don Juan is correct, and death is the active force in life, then psychedelic substances are a form of concentrated death. Even ordinary observation indicates that death regenerates life and keeps things moving forward; without it there is no evolution, no advance. Poetically speaking, Death provides the urgency of Time within the tapestry of Eternity. That is why Chronos, the Lord of Time, is depicted as the Grim Reaper. Time is the catalyst of Motion added to the "substance" of Space. This concept is clearly illustrated in Atu 13 of Aleister Crowley's and Frieda Harris' Thoth tarot deck. "
Ok, so now:
Can I confirm that the following is a personal relation and not grounded in the science of dmt?
"Shamanically speaking, to smoke DMT or ingest any other hallucinogen is to offer up our cells as a sacrifice to the spirits. By such sacrifice, we are allowing our consciousness to be possessed by mysterious and invisible agents of transformation. When we ingest a psychoactive substance, a number of our neurons are "destroyed," which is to say, broken down to their basic constituents. In the moment of destruction, they become "food" for inorganic intelligences to gain temporary substance in our organic realm of existence, via our consciousness. There is a moment of overlap between the worlds of life and death, the temporal and the eternal. As part of us "dies," it is absorbed by the spirit-intelligences residing in the plant or chemical, intelligences which (we can only imagine) are seeking an experience of organic existence otherwise unavailable to them. (Since plants are organic life forms, it might be more accurate to say they are seeking a different, more sentient kind of organic experience.) In those brief moments or hours, while our neurons are being consumed by the entheogen, they are still connected to our conscious selves, to the nervous system and neural network. As a result, we get to consciously experience existence "on the other side," through the eyes of the spirits; at the same time, the spirits are able to experience life through our eyes. This form of ritual sacrifice is an ancient exchange, possibly the oldest one of all.
In Ketamine: Dreams and Realities, Karl Jansen writes, "LSD and DMT bind to serotonin receptors and this is thought to push the start button for a cascade of events resulting in a psychedelic trip."[1] To the extent that psychedelics bind to and thereby alter the receptor sites, the question arises: what does this alteration of the nervous system allow us to receive? The kind of energy that is received via the altered receptor sites, as well as the amount, would perhaps be determined not merely by what is being ingested (the chemicals in the plant), but also by the circumstances under which it taken and -- perhaps most critically of all -- the psychological make-up of the person ingesting. Native Americans doing peyote or Peruvians shamans (and their clientele) taking ayahuasca would then be an entirely different affair to Westerners aspiring to become master Magi or seeking congress with the divine, while having little clue what they are doing and little or no relationship to the plant/chemical (and residing spirit) being ingested. "
