flyboy said:
SWIMS mimosa guy is out but chaliponga is in. He tried extraction but that was just like mimosa (he was hoping for a 5meo feeling from chali but did not feel anything different)
The 5-MeO-DMT content varies. SWIM usually finds it has about 30% 5-MeO-DMT with the rest being DMT when he buys from certain vendors. Sometimes there’s no 5-MeO-DMT at all, and sometimes there no DMT. It’s not so consistent.
flyboy said:
SWIM has wanted to do an AYA, but not if it's going to leave him dissapointed.
SWIM does not have a sitter or co-astronaut this weekend.
Saturday night is the night in mind.
1. How much chali and how much rue to ensure breakthrough? Can he overdose with too much chaliponga? ie. is it safe with relatively low-mid level rue but say, 50g of chaliponga extract or will swim end up in er.
If you’re chali is normal quality with good amounts of both DMT and 5-MeO-DMT then 15 grams will be a lot, and 50 grams will probably seriously freak out everyone on this forum to the point where insanity to the extreme is experienced. I wouldn’t recommend that dose unless you know you have chali with little or no 5-MeO-DMT in it. With the chali SWIM buys from his favorite chali vendor, the 5-MeO-DMT content is about 0.2%. So 50 grams would contain about 100 mg of 5-MeO-DMT. That’s way too much to take orally with an MAOI. I don’t think you’d end up in ER, but maybe you might end up in a mental institution for a while until your brain chemistry gets back to normal
flyboy said:
2. Is aya emotional like shrooms!? Swim finds shrooms can lead to very depressing thoughts, very dark places, not like lsd which is rock and roll and spice which is time travel.
Yes and no. It’s too hard to say. Individual effects vary too much. With SWIM shrooms never cause a bad trip like LSD can. So SWIM’s reaction is the opposite to SWIY. SWIM never had a bad trip on aya, but others have.
flyboy said:
2. Is there danger doing aya alone, more than say salvia or spice? He has done plenty of shrooms and acid alone albeit years ago. Does aya come with that physcal need to run around and move like shrooms? Thats what gets swim in trouble with shrooms somtimes.
It’s more relaxed. SWIM always does it alone if the dose is really strong. If the dose is light, he likes being around his family and friends. But at a high dose, SWIM wants to concentrate on the visions, so it’s like being in the theater, he likes it dark and quite with no one causing distractions.
flyboy said:
3. What should swim prepare other than somewhere to purge, ie water, food, music, silence?
Why does swim feel he's going to feel let down by the aya experience in comparison to spice.
If the chali is bunk, like a lot of it is out there if you don’t get it from a good vendor, then yes you’ll be disappointed. If it’s the same chali SWIM has and you take 50 grams, you’ll be in for the most intense trip of your life. Within about 5 minutes you’ll be tripping really hard and thinking “OH SHIT! I’ve done it now!”. SWIM doesn’t even want to think about how strong that would be. SWIM is hardcore and can handle 10 hits of strong acid, 15 large psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, and would never ever consider taking more than 25 grams of good quality chali in aya. The 5-MeO-DMT in it becomes really bazaar at high doses causing all sorts of insane effects on the mind. We’re talking about thing like,
“I became a triangle and I could not escape the confines of the triangle as it began to shrink and engulfed my soul and spit it out into a billion shards of glass. I could not find my soul for an eternity and I felt lost until the elephant man sent messages to me in tiny pieces of hair which I hate and vomited out. I could not stop vomiting out hairs which became universes that exploded into dust. Finally my teeth were like worms and my mind was like a piece of candy that was melting. I attempted to recall who I was, why I was, but the elephant man kept entering my mind and mixing it like a blender with his trunk.”
Beware, 5-MeO-DMT can cause some very serious abstract thoughts that make no sense at all. The last time SWIM took 5-MeO-DMT sublingually in his living room, during the peak, all of his thoughts were squares and rectangles. Not images of squares, his thought patterns were actually squares. All of SWIMs thoughts were squares. His brain and his emotions became squares. As bazaar as that sounds, that is what he experienced. 5-MeO-DMT can be really weird. Aya tends to tame 5-MeO-DMT and make it more like DMT, but at high doses the 5-MeO-DMT insanity starts creeping in. And I mean CREEPING as in CREEPY
I recommend no more than 10 grams at first.