Autism = high production of DMT in pineal gland?

[sonofsnow]

I`ve been pondering for some time about this question does pepole with autism have a higher production of DMT in th brain than "normal" pepole? My wifes youngest brother have been diagnost highly autism with downs syndrom. When observing and have been around him for almost a decade now i really see a lot of him in myself during a DMT tirp. For instance he is extremly good at picking up "wibes", like when some one enters the room that is in a bad mood he will either keep a great distance from the person or he will get stressed and begin hitting himself or his mother, beacouse she is the one resbonsible for keeping his world safe(in his mind). Other things he likes doing is sitting and fiddeling with a straw or flipping a bottle half full of water. he also likes to sitt on the wood floor and look at the patterns. Anyways I see a lot of comparables.

I was reading around on autism and found out that a great deal of pepole with autisme have a either a way too high or low production of melatonin in the brain and was wondering if the melatonin could function as a MAOI?

I also read that there had been som resarch with SSRI and autisme, and they had a good deal of luck with bringing them back to a more normal state.

So.... I was thinking could it be any truth in this that pepole with autism have a higher production of DMT?

And if that could be the case is there any way to ligthen the "trip" for them, is there a way to ligthen a DMT trip or make it go over faster that any of you know of?

I dont say that it could "cure" him, maybe his brain are too "messed up to be fixed" (I dont mean this in a negative way, just for the record).

Any toughts on the subject would be very apprisiated

(sorry for my bad english writing hope i make my self understandable)

Best of wishes

 

[۩]

DMT is only theorized to be produced in the pineal gland.
It is scientifically proven to be produced in the heart and lungs among other places.

I don't think you can blame a certain ability/disability on one neurotransmitter.
I imagine it's far more complex than that.

 

[Blundering_Novice]

More research! Its an interesting question and if scientists could shed the shackles of fear imposed upon them by the somewhat element that governs them, we stand to learn a great deal more about these matters.

 

[Infundibulum]

More research! Its an interesting question and if scientists could shed the shackles of fear imposed upon them by the somewhat element that governs them, we stand to learn a great deal more about these matters.

Seriously???

So you reckon that the scientists (and mind you, there are plenty around here) are afraid to do some types of research by fear of government? Well, reality says otherwise. Most of the money that go to the scientists (for them to do science that is) is coming from non-governmental bodies. At least this is the case in countries that do leading science today such as the US, UK, Germany and Japan. Scientists are not afraid to do science, what an absurd statement is that?

But what is true is that many types of research cannot be done purely due to ethical reasons. How are you ever going to know whether the pineal produces dmt at certain diseases (as the OP proposes) or even spacial cases (like birth and death)? Kill people and get their pineals out for analysis? Kill babies? Dissect the pineals out of mentally impaired people?

If you assume I am afraid to do the said experiments because they constitute scientific misconduct and I'll go to jail (= a sentence imposed by my government), then fair enough. I anyway don't have any human guinea pigs people at my disposal to do such an "amazing" research.

 

[alladinsgrandpa]

Well I don't mean to say anything negative but is any one familiar with Rick simpson with Phoenix tears? He claims to have CURED CANCER!! Too bad he was arressted and DIED in custody????? He claims that two pounds of high grade cannabis brought down to a 2 ounce green liquid will cure any cancer. I was on some good LSD when I heard of him and watched a video on him so it's stuck my brain pretty hard how if this is true that the government is so corrupt they allow alcohol companies profit intentions get in the way of peoples fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, and friends a second chance at life???

 

[Infundibulum]

Well I don't mean to say anything negative but is any one familiar with Rick simpson with Phoenix tears? He claims to have CURED CANCER!! Too bad he was arressted and DIED in custody????? He claims that two pounds of high grade cannabis brought down to a 2 ounce green liquid will cure any cancer. I was on some good LSD when I heard of him and watched a video on him so it's stuck my brain pretty hard how if this is true that the government is so corrupt they allow alcohol companies profit intentions get in the way of peoples fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, and friends a second chance at life???

Typical case of conspiracy. Which means typical bollocks.

What you are not aware though is that this (and many others) is a case of double conspiracy. Basically the government made a doubly concealed conspiracy which is so dastardly conspired so as to make people think there IS a conspiracy where there is no one.

Good job the government did on you.

(and now in a more serious tone, guys please do not start with conspiracy theories ok? conspiracy theories is soooo 90's. This is 2010 we're living)

 

[polytrip]

Well I don't mean to say anything negative but is any one familiar with Rick simpson with Phoenix tears? He claims to have CURED CANCER!! Too bad he was arressted and DIED in custody????? He claims that two pounds of high grade cannabis brought down to a 2 ounce green liquid will cure any cancer. I was on some good LSD when I heard of him and watched a video on him so it's stuck my brain pretty hard how if this is true that the government is so corrupt they allow alcohol companies profit intentions get in the way of peoples fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, and friends a second chance at life???

Typical case of conspiracy. Which means typical bollocks.

What you are not aware though is that this (and many others) is a case of double conspiracy. Basically the government made a doubly concealed conspiracy which is so dastardly conspired so as to make people think there IS a conspiracy where there is no one.

Good job the government did on you.

(and now in a more serious tone, guys please do not start with conspiracy theories ok? conspiracy theories is soooo 90's. This is 2010 we're living)

Wasn't that on south park?

But what if the makers of south park are in on an even larger conspiracy to make us think that the government wants us to think there is a conspiracy, so we start thinking that there is no conspiracy and that only the government wants us to think there is?

So then they can openly start conspiring conspiracy's and we will think that they only want us to believe that they're conspiring against us.

Have you thought about that option yet infundibulum, or are you secretly working for them two?

 

[Blundering_Novice]

More research! Its an interesting question and if scientists could shed the shackles of fear imposed upon them by the somewhat element that governs them, we stand to learn a great deal more about these matters.

Seriously???

So you reckon that the scientists (and mind you, there are plenty around here) are afraid to do some types of research by fear of government? Well, reality says otherwise. Most of the money that go to the scientists (for them to do science that is) is coming from non-governmental bodies. At least this is the case in countries that do leading science today such as the US, UK, Germany and Japan. Scientists are not afraid to do science, what an absurd statement is that?

But what is true is that many types of research cannot be done purely due to ethical reasons. How are you ever going to know whether the pineal produces dmt at certain diseases (as the OP proposes) or even spacial cases (like birth and death)? Kill people and get their pineals out for analysis? Kill babies? Dissect the pineals out of mentally impaired people?

If you assume I am afraid to do the said experiments because they constitute scientific misconduct and I'll go to jail (= a sentence imposed by my government), then fair enough. I anyway don't have any human guinea pigs people at my disposal to do such an "amazing" research.

I omitted a word in my original post. And I am speaking solely of research based on 'illegal' drugs. I do not by any means intend to imply that scientists by default are cowardly. Quite the opposite in fact.

And no, I am not suggesting we kill people for research. And if you are so limited in your imagination, that's unfortunate for you.

Simmer down, fella. You're kinda bugging out.

 

[alladinsgrandpa]

This is not a conspiracy at all just facts. Sorry to cloud this topic with this but it is true and cannot be ignored. Have you been to the Phoenix tears website? And it is not a conspiracy that alcohol companies lobby against cannabis law reform due to potential loss of sales. This is a true crime being committed by our leaders.

 

[Blundering_Novice]

More research! Its an interesting question and if scientists could shed the shackles of fear imposed upon them by the somewhat element that governs them, we stand to learn a great deal more about these matters.

Seriously???

So you reckon that the scientists (and mind you, there are plenty around here) are afraid to do some types of research by fear of government?

Actually, yeah. That's precisely what I am saying. I should include the word "unsanctioned" before the word "research."

 

[Infundibulum]

More research! Its an interesting question and if scientists could shed the shackles of fear imposed upon them by the somewhat element that governs them, we stand to learn a great deal more about these matters.

Seriously???

So you reckon that the scientists (and mind you, there are plenty around here) are afraid to do some types of research by fear of government?

Actually, yeah. That's precisely what I am saying. I should include the word "unsanctioned" before the word "research."

Well, there are only a few research areas that are sanctioned by the government. For the vast majority of research no official approval is needed.

How did you come to your conclusion I really wonder.

 

[lyserge]

Back to the discussion topic, this is a great connection you've brought up. I consider myself to be on the autism scale, I'm very high functioning but I relate with other autistic people, their social difficulties, difficulties with eye contact and social cues, as well as their sensitivity, which you have noted. I'd be curious whether Autistic people do have increased amounts of DMT in their body due to the increased presence of Melatonin.
There's a recently published book called "Autism and the God Connection", check it out sonofsnow and anyone else interested in this topic. From the description, "it invokes a cosmic cornucopia of ghosts, spirits, angels, miracles and past lives to make the case that "the seemingly sudden and mysterious surge of children identified with autism ...is our Creator's purposeful plan to refocus us on the importance of reverence for all of humanity." Tales of telepathy, direct communication with animals, spirit interaction, mind reading and previous lives abound." DMT must be involved...

 

[SnozzleBerry]

Sorry, kind of off topic, but Rick Simpson IS NOT dead. Someone didn't read phoenix tears very closely did they? He has cured multiple types of cancer with his hemp oil extract and has not been the victim of any conspiratorial assassination, sorry to disappoint. This man is a personal hero and has done an incredible amount of good. With that I scuttle back to the shadows to watch this thread progress.

peace
SB

 

[sonofsnow]

DMT is only theorized to be produced in the pineal gland.
It is scientifically proven to be produced in the heart and lungs among other places.

I don't think you can blame a certain ability/disability on one neurotransmitter.
I imagine it's far more complex than that.

I don`t blame a certain ability/disability on one nurotransmitter. I just see many similaritis in the behaviour of my brother in law with my self during a voyage caused by DMT. And since it is found naturally in the human brain i wonder if it could happen that autistich pepole have a higer content of DMT in the brain than normal pepole or if the melatonin could make the DMT more active for them.

As i see it DMT is a very complex molecule that does amazing things with the brain that we yet dont have any great understanding of, and I am just seeking more knowlegde on the topic.

Best of wishes

 

[sonofsnow]

I don`t belive most of our scientist in the world are afraid to do resarch in fair of the government. I think most of them are doing the best possible resarch they can in the lines of ethics. Some are possibly afraid but most, I think, are trying to do the best they can to answer our questions and I hope they maybe can enlighten me on my question .

But please if we could stick to topic it would be greatly appreciated.

Best of wishes

 

[jamie]

Rick simpson is the real deal..and as far as I know is still sitting in a canadian jail cell for doing nothing other than curing people. This man was not just some pot smoking hippy..he used medical cannabis to cure his cancer and so dedicated his life to growing it as medicine he GAVE AWAY freely to other sick people..big pharma didnt like it.

I hope I am wrong and he is free now..

 

[VisualDistortion]

From what I remember of last semester's college text book, the best explanation they have come up with for the root of autism of a nervous system disorder. In studies where autistic and non-autistic children where asked to imitate facial expression, autistic children showed no activity in the mirror neuron system. If anyone wants to know a little bit more I can bust out my text book.

 

[Beloved Child]

More research! Its an interesting question and if scientists could shed the shackles of fear imposed upon them by the somewhat element that governs them, we stand to learn a great deal more about these matters.

Seriously???

So you reckon that the scientists (and mind you, there are plenty around here) are afraid to do some types of research by fear of government? Well, reality says otherwise. Most of the money that go to the scientists (for them to do science that is) is coming from non-governmental bodies. At least this is the case in countries that do leading science today such as the US, UK, Germany and Japan. Scientists are not afraid to do science, what an absurd statement is that?

But what is true is that many types of research cannot be done purely due to ethical reasons. How are you ever going to know whether the pineal produces dmt at certain diseases (as the OP proposes) or even spacial cases (like birth and death)? Kill people and get their pineals out for analysis? Kill babies? Dissect the pineals out of mentally impaired people?

If you assume I am afraid to do the said experiments because they constitute scientific misconduct and I'll go to jail (= a sentence imposed by my government), then fair enough. I anyway don't have any human guinea pigs people at my disposal to do such an "amazing" research.

I just wanted to say that there are loads of types of research that people/scientists don't do for fear of their government. for example: cancer is a HUGE money maker, and surprise surprise, no cure found... except that there are hundreds of reports of people who have cured their cancer...all this is supressed because its not a drug that cures them, its something unpatentable...what about dentists who speak out against flouride, and try to dis-prove it's "benefits"? many of them have lost their jobs simply for trying to tell the truth.

There are many many examples of things that scholars are completely unwilling to talk about let along research for fear of being black listed and losing their careers.


~BC

 

[sonofsnow]

Again can we please stick to the topic. And make a seperate topic about the disscuision if scientists are afraid of the government or not.

Best of wishes

 

[Blinkkin]

Very interesting. I haven't considered the role of DMT in autism, but I have wondered whether natural psychics just have the DMT knob turned up higher than others. I don't know of any way to shorten a trip like you can with other allies and I imagine one couldn't lighten a trip as one would need a certain minimal amount to cross the threshold. Perhaps others here know a way.