avoiding negative effects of lower dose DMT?

[starway6]

I have been slowly increasing my acacia changa doses recently and found that in ..
[lowest doses] the effects were very calming relaxing and a great body high..
It felt as if all the stress of my life was totaly gone.. and i was blanketed with pure bliss and a feeling of saftey..
But as i increased the dose of changa the experiance gradually got less enjoyable as negative body effects similar to [vasco constriction] temporary physical discomfort and the bright lights and noises that come with the dmt come up..
I except the increased light and buzzing and fractals flying all over the place ..because that comes with the dmt experiance..[I want to experiance these things]
But the physical discomfort of the come up on higher doses is worysome..
I have read that if i were to just take a larger breakthrough dose ..i wouldent even be much aware of my physical body at all ..and would breakthrough without much memory of the negative body effects of the come up?
To anyone who has triped many times on DMT.. is this advise to take a larger dose...
[to avoil the negative body effects on come up].. correct?
Would apreciate advise...Thanks..

 

[universecannon]

For me the bodyload of sub-breakthroughs is more uncomfortable and heavier than that of breakthroughs (sometimes while breakinghtrough i'm totally unaware of my body, sometimes not). As long as you don't have heart problems and there isn't the possibility of anything else being left over from the extraction that you might need to worry about, I'd just go for it.

I love low doses but most people, myself included, like breakthroughs more than those in-between sub-breakthrough stages... which can be a bit uncomfortable at times due to the bodyload, fear, and sometimes a tornado effect of being a bit stuck in between dimensions.

I'm not experienced with acacias however

 

[starway6]

Thanks for your post universecannon..
45 minutes ago.. I went outside into my van and vaped a very small dose of ...
[acacia confusa ..cappi leaf changa]
I would say a little pile as round as a button on my shirt ..vaped in the great V2 hardware store vape pipe.. talked about on nexus..
When in van i played some native american peyote music..compleate with pan flute and much chanting..
As the music played .. it started raining ..which added a more positive vibe to my relaxed trip ..
The lighting in van turned emerald green and i went to heaven for atleast 30 minutes..!
On that dose no negative body load at all!..instead a positive warm comforting blanket of peace and great DMT headspace.. with gentle LSD like movment of walls and objects..
I also got mild buzzing ..vibrating earlier on the come up ..
I felt great on this dose! ..
On this dose i felt so good ..i wondered if it was an addictive drug like crack/?..but DMT isnt suposed to be that way..
I never touch anything that can controll me...
Just my report...

 

[expandaneum]

The inbetween stage is for me the place where most strange things happen, sometimes losing my mind and finding out before you are on your way back.

Even after a 100+ (stopt counting after that a long time ago) trips its still a somewhat challenging state.
Also i really don't like the closed eye visuals at this time there like a sketchy drawing and are aesthetically wrong.

So after some time I tried to work with them instead of taking more and go for a breakthrough or take less. Still its not the best place to be, but it gets easy-er. Also its sometime more therapeutically.

On this dose i felt so good ..i wondered if it was an addictive drug like crack/?..but DMT isnt suposed to be that way..
I never touch anything that can controll me...

For me it is addictive although not in the classical way. It can be at times al consuming and will demand allot of time. If you have a serious social live and a busy job this can be a bit to much. So when you need more time processing the experience or use it as a way to hide from reality you should seriously consider a break. Although you don't sound your there.


take care and go slow

 

[olympus mon]

Other than anxiety that I bring into the experience at times I have never felt dmt is uncomfortable at all. If you feel med experiences are quite bad feeling I don't think you got good advice who ever said just push past all that into a break through state of out of body. That's a bad idea and quite a gamble.

If you don't like the feelings past low doses you would probably not like a strong journey at all and it may course you some panic. TBH, it sounds to me like maybe DMT isn't best suited to your tastes and or desires.

As far as the addiction questions you asked Ill say this. If your asking if dmt is physically addictive the answer is no but any mood altering substance or even behavior is absolutely addictive so yes of coarse DMT can be addictive.

Maybe you could clarify what your concerns are regarding this. It sounds to me you may be new to this world and naive to these substances and matters in general. Please don't take that insultingly I mean it by the very definition of the word not as a put down. The way you bring up crack into the discussion suggests to me you may not have much 1st or second hand experience with addictions and illicit substances, which btw is great if that's the case. Who knows maybe you do but you must make your own decision about addition likelyhood for your self. Addiction is much, much more than a one size fits all shoe.

 

[starway6]

Thanks for reply ..olympus mon.....
Yes smoked DMT is a little new to me though ive smoked it more than 20 times and have not got the dose or smoking methods correct yet...
When i said low doses.. [i ment lower pre breakthrough dose]..being close to breaking through but not quite there..
At that dose everything moving very fast and getting extreemly bright..plus that elephant sitting on chest thing to a small degree..
At this dosage.. i just surprized myself with a [very thick hit].. of acacia confusa dmt wax...
and this experiance caught me off guard and caused some anxiety...
I have pleanty of past experiances with phycoactives ..like LSD...Mescaline...magic mushrooms..opiated hash...
But the very low doses of my [AC changa] effect me very positivly with no anxiety at all infact the experiance at this low dose is like a warm comforting blanket all over me ..
I feel great! and ..shed all my worries ..stresses of life ....
At this dose i experiance a great DMT head space nice mild LSD like movment of walls..and other objects in room and feel very comfortable..
I can close my eyes and get nice CEVs even at this low dose...
When it wears off i have a positive after glow of that lasts quite a while!...
At this dose AC dmt is more of a [medicine to me] as it comforts me so well..
I havent found my perfect dose size yet. but im adjusting it a little at a time..
The much higher doses seem to be much more intense..although many go for this breakthrough dose and put up with the minor discomforts of the fast come up..
I think taking a breakthrough dose just makes one less aware of any body sensations..
I just ordered one key of AC confusa root bark and hope it lasts me awhile...
cheers..