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Ayahuasca changa, how experimental can you get?

Yuxibu

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I just landed from one of the most beautiful changa journeys I've experienced so far.

I'm not really do a trip report, all I can say is that one pipe was enough to bring a mini Ayahuasca journey with enhanced visual stunningness, with all the healing and teaching a proper ceremony can bring, even at a sub breakthrough dose.

And with this I want to encourage y'all to get creative when it comes to sourcing your harmalas, preserving the essence of the plant while extracting and creating your blend.
I will just share a bit of how I achieved this so that anyone can replicate in their own way.

There is a limitation that won't allow this little guide to be accessible to everyone thought and that is that it uses actual Ayahuasca in the recipe.

Any ceremony that I attend, if I see an Ayahuasca bottle being finished up and thrown away, I'll go to the facilitators and ask if I can keep it. One man's trash can be another's treasure. Hell, sometimes I even offer myself to wash the cups where the medicine was served just to gather a few mg more of future isolated alkaloids 🤣

The good news is that you can to a certain degree achieve a similar result with caapi that you brew yourself, and probably with some of those caapi pastes sold online if it is of good quality.
Of course the Ayahuasca leftovers will have some extra spicyness from the added chacruna, but caapi alone can get pretty close to this.

This extraction process will use limonene, because we want to preserve the full spectrum quality of the plants we are extracting.
I'm a full spectrum advocate, and I believe that this procedure helps the final blend to retain their spirit to a greater degree.
I feel that pure DMT in a way lacks some "depth", the nuances that bring the more characteristic aspects of the personality of each plant is lost or greatly reduced, and it tends to be much easier to send you to hyper spacial madness while the full spectrum extracts will be much more grounded and connected to nature even in breakthrough mode.
And I've been finding out.. the same applies to the harmala sources as well! Pure harmalas alone will only give you a fraction of the plants potential.

In the other hand, some full spectrum extracts alone can feel a bit too earthy and get a bit too underwhelming, depending on the quality of the caapi and the ratios you use.

So after some experimentation I've found out that the best blends are the ones that mix both purified alkaloids and full spectrum extracts.

This blend I just made is composed of

1,5g of yellow crystalline spice from mhrb
0,5g of caapi harmalas
0,2g of thh
1,5g of full spectrum mhrb goo
1g of full spectrum Ayahuasca goo
5g of herbs

For this one I used a Huni Kuin Ayahuasca, another that I brewed myself, and a 12:1 red caapi extract.
To retrieve all the sediments in the bottom of the bottle I add warm water with a bit of citric or acetic acid and shake it like my life depends on it, and repeat that 2 or 3 more times or until the bottle is clean.
I gather all the acidic pulls, filter and reserve, and give and extra acid rinse on the filtered sediments.
The filtered tea is then based and after the harmalas settle, when decanting, I save the decanted solution, add some limonene and pull 3x.

Ive noticed that backsalting with vinegar as making a sodium carbonate paste somehow preserves more compounds compared to fumaric acid backsalting. While Fasi preserves some stuff I feel it lays in-between a vinegar backsalted goo and a pure extract. The jungle funkyness is simply much stronger with vinegar. Never experimented with other acids, so I have no way to compare.

After pulling with IPA the resulting goo will have unknown amounts of both caapi and chacruna full spectrum alkaloids (how experimental can you get?🤣)

To anyone cooking their own caapi to extract harmalas, try this extra step of pulling with limonene, you might be amazed how much of a difference it can make.

For the herbs I used a really simple blend
40% caapi leaves
40% mullein
10% spearmint
10% MHRB very finely shredded and cut.
After infusing I added some Jasmin, red rose and blue lotus for some extra color, and some Palo Santo saw dust.

After having experimented with dozens of blends, I arrived to the point where I prefer to have only the plants I extracted from and some extra lung friendly herbs. Sometimes less is more.

I also infused a leaf of white sage, 3 Palo Santo shreds and some crumbs of white copal in ethanol for a week and later added it to the blend.

Another little experimentation I've made, a bit intuitively was to do a layered infusion.

Each of the extracts was separately dissolved in ethanol, and infused one at a time into the herbs.

First the pure DMT. When the blend was almost completely dry I added the full spectrum Jurema extract, then the Ayahuasca one, then the caapi harmalas + thh went in together and lastly the incense infused ethanol.. I would add each to the blend in the morning and leave it 24h drying in my yogurt making machine that is always at 45°c, so it took me around 5 days to infuse everything and 2 more to let it completely dry.

The layering idea might sound stupid since very likely the subsequent infusions will redissolve the previously infused alkaloids but I just felt guided to do it and I did. And somehow it did something because this batch is the smoothest (strong) batch I've ever had, both in terms of take off and harshness of smoke.

No nasty tastes, the mint stood out a lot, together with some citric and Woody undertones from copal and Palo Santo.

In a lot of changa blends when smoking I kinda feel at the beginning that both the DMT and harmalas are fighting to enter my brain. It takes some time for the whole thing to set in and adjust until it really becomes a changa experience. With this batch I felt the onset was slightly slower but simply unfolding naturally until it blossomed in pure beauty, comfortably bringing me to a full breakthrough.

Although my notion of time was a bit diluted, using my playlist as a reference it lasted 20-25 minutes in peak strength + 15-20 minutes in post peak strength, still being immersed in the beauty of nature, receiving it's gifts and teachings. The afterglow lasted a few hours..
All this with 1 big toke from a small bong.

This is the closest I've felt to an Ayahuasca ceremony with changa, ever. All I can say is that this is another level of changa. While most changas have a lot of good qualities to them, offering a variety of mesmerizing experiences.. this is more than just an experience. This is the kind of qualitative difference that separates a psychedelic trip to what the natives refer to when they mention the word medicine.

I experimented a lot with this type of combinations, there where some decent shots in the dark, a lot of subpar quality results, and after all those missed shots and a lot of tweaking I finally arrived to the potential I always felt this method could have.
I'm just feeling that kind of self realization right now 😅

So to all the full spectrum extractors, don't limit that logic to your DMT source alone. Full spectrum caapi will make a huge difference in the blend. Never tried this method with rue but I've felt a difference just from adding crushed seed to a blend with extracted harmalas.

There are no exact procedures here, it all boils down to wearing your mad scientist hat and allow creativity to flow. My post changa rant already extended itself long enough with only the philosophical aspect of going completely full spectrum 😇 y'all can experiment with your own adaptations now.
 
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