Ayawaska vs. isolated DMT

[YogiB]

I'm not completely new to this, but am perhaps "saturated", or overwhelmed with all of the information I am reading, and learning through film, documentaries, various websites, and the nexus regarding practical application of DMT/Ayawaska, and the difference between smoking compared to ingesting, and the differences in the journey, or blast off itself. I am quite sure all of this information is in here, and have read much about it, but am looking for individuals personal experiences such as; Which DMT, or Ayawaska is your fav? Which do you feel you personally had the most relative "trip" with? Which was more life changing for you possibly giving you the proverbial "Aha!" moment?

Thank you in advance! I look forward to hearing from you with your 'newer' discussions on this subject.

 

[expandaneum]

He and welcome,

This topic has been covert extensively on the nexus take your time reading through these topics.

To answer your question or not;
I think its a very personal thing, for me they are to different things but in some way there the same. ( this might sound very vague but for me its like this ) so i gues you need to find out yourself :d

take care and read more, its al there

 

[Global]

I can see the hordes of ayahuasca-favoring Nexians lining up to post here, but I'm not one of them. I happen to get loads out of the short DMT flashes. They have a lot to tell you if you're paying attention. If anything, I probably like smoking DMT on ayahuasca the most, but that's quite an intense day you're signing yourself up for, so I do that sparingly.

 

[Bdevall158]

I have only drunk Ayahuasca twice, in two consecutive nights, and both times where the most amazing experience for me yet both totally different. For smoked DMT though I have had very powerful experiences as well, but definitely in a different and much faster way. I have just begun working with changa in the last month and have to say I really REALLY enjoy it It slows down things just enough for me to be able to work and learn from the experience. :thumb_up:

 

[jamie]

no one here(that I know of) is "manufacturing" DMT. This must be stated as the title of this thread is misleading and assumes too much. Just because people smoke DMT does not mean it is manufactured by them. Everyone here as far as I know is using DMT from plants..and a large portion of people who smoke "DMT" are using full spectrum plant extracts..just as ayahuasca is really a full spectrum plant extract..just that one is drunk and one is smoked. Both are traditional methods of ingesting tryptamines, and so is snuffing.

I have worked with all these methods many times. They are each different in what they offer, though the center of the flash at a sufficient dose of DMT, weather oral, smoked or snuffed etc is the same place. It's exactly the same. For me.

Drinking ayahuasca can be terrifying. More terrifying than you can possibly imagine until you are there. All of these things can be. I am not sure how many people have actually achieved oral hyperspace, but it is relentless. Ayahuasca can open you up though, with less work on your part in some ways, exactly because of how relentless it is. You can only fight it for so long..then you have to give in. With smoking it is harder to work with, although mentally it is easier due to duration. It can be more difficult to integrate the energies that arise when you smoke I find, because it is so fast. You don't get to spend 2-3 hours in that medicine space when you smoke. Sometimes all you need is 2-3 minutes though. Snuffing is somewhere in between.

When you factor in sufficient doses of harmalas to any of these methods it also changes things.

 

[YogiB]

Jamie has a good point, and so for supportive purposes because unfortunately people presume, and assume far too much in their little bubbles they think is their world alone, THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT MANUFACTURING, it is simply about the use and experience of DMT/Ayahuasca. ;-)


And an additional question:
Tell me about your own personal "hangovers". Ive heard a few opinions on this varying from "there isn't one", to "Eww".

 

[wearepeople]

THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT MANUFACTURING

There should be an "edit post" button near the top of the original post. With that you can freely change the subject line to something else.

 

[Global]

Jamie has a good point, and so for supportive purposes because unfortunately people presume, and assume far too much in their little bubbles they think is their world alone, THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT MANUFACTURING, it is simply about the use and experience of DMT/Ayahuasca. ;-)


And an additional question:
Tell me about your own personal "hangovers". Ive heard a few opinions on this varying from "there isn't one", to "Eww".

They can both make me a little sleepy (but not the day after). Ayahuasca can give me a minor headache after use on the same day. If anything the afterglow can transparently persist into the next day, making me feel good and on top of things.

 

[YogiB]

THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT MANUFACTURING

There should be an "edit post" button near the top of the original post. With that you can freely change the subject line to something else.

Thank you Wearepeople! ;-) Much appreciation for your patience.