B. Caapi Liquid Extract dosage?

[spanda]

I recently acquired B. Caapi Liquid Extract (Yellow AYA Brew) from my favorite supplier. The label says 400 to 440 grams of whole vine goes into 1 fluid ounce. In order to potentiate DMT I am going to try 1/2 teaspoon of this extract. Since 1/2 teaspoon is 1/12 of a fluid ounce it should be equivalent to ~33 to 37 grams of vine. At .5% alkaloids this will be 165 to 185 mg of alkaloids. This may be a bit conservative but since the alkaloid content can vary quite a bit I'm thinking it is a good place to start. Anyone have experience with this product and can give me an idea if this sounds about right to them?

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

imo its rare (if possible) for brews to have 100% of the alkaloids in the vine.

37g of caapi is a fairly low dose even for those who are pretty sensitive to caapi.

while i haven't tried any of that extract, i wouldn't imagine its more potent than a really good brew.

i would recommend starting with the equivalent of 50g, imo.

or you can start with 37g, wait an hour, and take a bit more as necessary..

 

[spanda]

imo its rare (if possible) for brews to have 100% of the alkaloids in the vine.

37g of caapi is a fairly low dose even for those who are pretty sensitive to caapi.

while i haven't tried any of that extract, i wouldn't imagine its more potent than a really good brew.

i would recommend starting with the equivalent of 50g, imo.

or you can start with 37g, wait an hour, and take a bit more as necessary..

Thanks, maybe I'll try 3/4 teaspoon, that would get me into the 50 to 55 gram range.

 

[DeMolecularTraveler]

I have the same extract and was wondering the same thing. I'll be watching this thread for updates

 

[Swinjin]

If it is the same supplier i got mine from, it wasn't close to a fluid oz. maybe 15ml.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

If it is the same supplier i got mine from, it wasn't close to a fluid oz. maybe 15ml.

was it marketed as an oz of extract?

because that is only half as much..

 

[jamie]

37g of some caapi can really rock you..though it is very rare to have a vine like that. With new vine always test it first with a low dose just to see.

I have never heard much about the liquid extracts from a certain vendor whos had them for some time to be very potent..especially if it is hawaiin yellow or ceilo vine..I was told by others you need about 100g(vine weight) of it to really activate the admixture..but I dunno personally..

Minxx had the red liquid extract once and said it was strong.

 

[spanda]

I have the same extract and was wondering the same thing. I'll be watching this thread for updates

So I started with 3/4 teaspoon of this extract. I mixed it into some orange juice at 1:00 PM. By 2:00 I thought I was detecting a buzz so I decided to go for a walk. 15 minutes into it I realized that I was feeling quite good, no visual effects, but kind of a puffy beta-carbolized feel to it. I was listening to Brent Lewis' Jungle Moon album, the weather was gorgeous (California wine country), felt like I "had a bluebird on my shoulder". (It's the truth, it's actual, everything is satisfactual!) By the time I got home I'd decided that I probably hadn't done enough to potentiate an oral dose so I decide to vape some of my latest MHRB extract. Not knowing what to expect I went easy and weighed out 35mg, a light dose for me, I'm ususally in the 75-80mg range. I got it all in two hits (about 3:15 now) and lay back with my eyes closed. The visuals were quite spectacular, definitely a different signature, much physical energy. And what I noticed was that while it wasn't particularly intense it seemed to go on and on and on and on and...When I opened my eyes things were still vibrating and I thought a really long time had passed and I might have fallen asleep because I wasn't really remembering the trip, but it was only 3:30. I torched the VG once more to make sure I'd got it all and got another brief lift, then went outside to mess around. At 4:00 I was still feeling tryptaminish but no visual effects to speak of other than very vibrant colors and kind of a feeling of expansive satisfaction. Effects tapered from there to baseline but I felt quite well the rest of the day, lots of serotinin coursing through my system.

I think for oral DMT potentiation I'd double the B. Caapi to 1.5 teaspoon of this extract. Also I think I waited too long to get the full effects of the synergy of the two plants. Probably better to vape or ingest the DMT at about 1.25 to 1.5 hours. Let us know how it goes for you DeMolecular.