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Caapi THP extraction and nausea or purging

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hypertestudo

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  • 100g B. caapi powder, not sure what color (black yellow red) from Nutricargo.
  • THP extraction with 5% white vinegar and 1.5L osmosis water per 10g caapi. Water/vinegar mix boiled to 140F, then poured through cotton ball filter.
  • Entire THP extraction of 100g caapi reduced to about 700ml. Did not use low heat to reduce; medium to high heat boil for most of the reduction; then lower heat near at end of reduction
Having searched and read so many posts, sometimes things become less clear and more confusing. Please help confirm, clarify or guide to these questions:

Presume GVG use.

Primary goals:
  1. Avoid MAOI use that will cause purging
  2. Use MAOI in a way that will be most effective and consistent to prolong and potentiate DMT vaping
  3. Keep MAOI extraction method and use as *simple* as possible

Questions:
  1. Can this THP extraction above be consumed as tea as is without any other process as an effective MAOI?
  2. If consumed as tea without any other process, will this likely cause nausea? purging?
  3. If purging is likely, what are alternative ways to Use MAOI in a way that will be most effective to prolong and potentiate DMT vaping?
  4. Can the THP extraction be further processed to harmala powder/crystals(?)? and if so what is the practical application for doing this? reducing nausea and purging?

Possible methods? to reach goals:
  1. Changa?: further extract caapi from reduction to harmala powder/crystals(?), mix with DMT and vape it? Can harmala powder be vaped?
  2. If harmala powder can be vaped, is it possible to vape harmala alone, then vape DMT to get consistent ratios?
  3. Changa II: if smoalked, is caapi *leaf* the most practical or efficient or consistent method to use it as an MAOI with DMT?
  4. Further process THP extraction to harmalas (plus some other process?) to use harmalas as tea or in a capsule?
  5. Other suggested MAOI consumption methods?
 
Vinegar may well have been something of a mistake if your goal is to avoid nausea. RO water wouldn't really require acidification for this (THP) to work.

Harmala freebase can be vaped, but it requires a rather high temperature for this. Combustion - as in changa - or sublingual use might be more straightforward.

It's probably simplest to crash out the harmala freebase by slowly dripping in sodium hydroxide solution to the THP brew you've collected. Add just enough for a tiny bit of clouding to persist, then swap to sodium carbonate if you like. Sodium carbonate could be used from the start but it may foam a lot.

Check out the various harmala extraction threads and the wiki for more details. There are plenty of threads about changa too.
 
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