Basified Solution and Degraded Alkaloids

[Tycelium]

Good afternoon everyone, I have had great success with DMT extractions with basified aqueous solutions that have sat until I could work with them, even after weeks of sitting. Recently I have been hearing that the alkaloids could be degrading in these basified solutions. I have also heard that this is even more true for A/B extraction of mescaline. I would really appreciate information and insights on the longevity of alkaloids suspended in a basified solution. Thank you in advance!

 

[neurobloom]

I don't know about DMT but i extracted mescaline with very high pH with no problem. Sometimes i'd leave it with the solvent for days, check on it swirl it up and leave it to seperate for few more days then extract with no problem. Mescaline can take it.

 

[Northerner]

I've left very basic DMT solutions for over a year and come back and pulled them with success.

 

[doubledog]

I think that exact opposite is true, as cactus extractions are known for high pH needed. You can left mescaline basified for days without any issue.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

If anything, mescaline will be more stable than DMT - phenethylamines are more stable than tryptamines as a rule, on account of the indole ring system's greater vulnerability to oxidation. (Tryptamines = indolethylamines)

 

[Voidmatrix]

Anecdotal: I left a vessel basified for over a month. The final product didn't seem to have any difference in potency than from extractions that were completed in a more timely manner.

One love

 

[Tycelium]

Many thanks everyone! That clears up a lot of my concerns and eases my worries.