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Best way to do Morning Glories

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Terciel

Terciel

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i recently obtained 30 grams of Morning Glory seeds they are Livingston Seed Company brand.

I have several questions:

1. is this brand safe to ingest? there is no information on the package as to whether or not they have been treated. It does say however that they are only for planting purposes which wouldn't be that terrible if i had to wait to harvest my own seeds then i would know for sure and have many many more than i do now.

2. is there a consensus on the best way to do MG seeds? there is ample information out there but doesn't seem to be much of a consensus. I am particularly interested in attempting an LSH conversion.

3. Are extractions of these seeds worth it?

4. recommended starting dose? i was thinking 150-200 i tend to be fairly sensitive to psychoactive compounds.

thanks in advance
-Terciel
 
Welcome to the nexus, while we don't condone the consumption of LSA containing products as it is illegal in many countries.

Hypothetically one could consume 5-7g and get decent effects, depending on tolerance. Upwards of 10g will likely be a strong trip, which on LSA are apparently not too pleasant.

A character I made up, I call him SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me) has tried LSA many times with HBWR and MG.

1:Some seeds may have pesticides on them, if that is a big worry then one could just wash them with lightly soapy water then let them dry before grinding them.

2:SWIM has been worked with some High Quality HBWR, but there were expensive, he go some cheaper ones and they were near-useless. He's tried MG several times in several different ways, they seem to be more reliable for their effects.

Eating them the wrong way, like eating the seed powder straight can make for a terrible trip with headache and nausea much greater than the psychedelic effects.

Using a straight cold-water brew using 40-60ml per gram of seed powder should be good. More could be used without issue. Soak it in 2 batches for best results (20-30ml per gram each).
That will give a plain LSA experience with all the effects and much less nausea than eating the seeds.

SWIM has once tried washing the seeds in canola oil before the cold-water extraction. It seemed to reduce the nausea a lot. You can read his report here

As for the the LSH, SWIM has tried it 3 times and had success once. The failed ones were done with peppermint teabags added. The successful one (at least subjectively) was done using cold-brewed coffee (has acetaldehyde just like peppermint) and a capful of rum in the brew and also a capful consumed 20 minutes before the brew. The degeneration of alcohol leaves acetaldehyde in the blood. The brew was not too strong, but the effects were stimulating and very different than LSA, also 1/2 the length.

SWIM has some MG on the way and will try to confirm his test he just mentioned, which have only been tried one time each.

3: in SWIM's experience, no.
Even for small of seeds a large amount of solvent is needed and it need to be protected from heat and light and junk, SWIM has not gotten and positive results from extraction, though he only tried twice.

4: 150-200 would be fine to start, shouldn't send you too far, may just give you a weird buzz, SWIM got that his first time. SWIM works in grams now, much easier than counting 3.5g is about 100 seeds. SWIM has medium tolerance to LS* compounds and he got a mild, but pleasant effect off of 5.5g. His next test will be 7.5g with LSH conversion attempt.

Cheers
 
just as a note nothing i post on the nexus is true i just like to feel cool by pretending to do interesting things in my spare time.... (like honestly what sort of crazy person would eat morning glory seeds?)

I have been a lurker for a while and just started posting a month or two ago. I am quite a fan of the lot of the work you are doing and plan on trying your no lye tek when i finally get around to obtaining some MHRB.

But back to the LSA. I would probably plan on starting light and have actually tried them once before although it was pleasant the nausea was not something i was a fan of. I read through your oil tek and it seems intriguing and fairly easy to perform. i think i will do that in the near future and get back with the results. Thank you for your informative help.
 
Are the morning glories posible to use sublingualy with perhaps lime or alkohol to enhance uptake of the alkaloids?
can this reduse the amounts of seeds needed or enhance the effekts?
 
i know nothing about sub lingual MG use seems like it would be to much seed matter to be effective an extract would probably have to be used.

However SWIM (who recently started talking to me again) plans on trying out an oil wash and then a CWE on his MG seeds. He has never really liked nausea and the idea sounds intriguing. If he plans on doing this he would like to know whether or not it is best to grind the seeds before putting them in the oil. And then also more details about the water extraction. He would be very appreciative of any information that i could then pass along to him.

also SWIM would like to know how long an extracted brew can be kept at room temp because he wants to extract roughly 30g's at once.
 
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