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Bleeding Heart (Dicentra formosa)

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This rhizome contains an array of isoquinolone alkaloids – dicentrine, protopine, bulbocapnine, corydine, and isocorydine – several of which exhibit narcotic properties.

Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest have used bleeding heart for generations as a remedy for toothache and other types of pain.

Michael Moore, author of Medicinal Plants of the Pacific West, reports that a tincture of bleeding heart’s leaves or rhizome, when taken internally, helps calm frazzled nerves.


We have 2 huge bushes of this growing in yard. GF ate 6 leaves yesterday and reported a light sedative opiate-like effect.

Protopine is a benzylisoquinoline alkaloid occurring in opium poppy

Look how similar protopine looks to THP from corydalis.

Bulbocapnine and dimentrine also look analogous to Glaucine from corydalis

THP and glaucine are recreational pain-killers that are more sedative than as euphoric as traditional opiates.
 

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Took 160 mg of tianeptine earlier. (a recreational research chemical non-classically structured opiate). Due to having eaten a big meal of pasta at least an hour and a half earlier and having a tolerance, all I felt at this point was light effects, on the cusp of starting to get good.

I went outside and harvested some leaves. 3 leaves look like one. There is a middle, and side leaves (18 leaves) each connected to the stem. I ate 6 of these trios of leaves pretty quickly and about 25 minutes later I'm nodding out with difficulty focusing eyes due to heavy relaxation. I cease eating the leaves at this point because effects feel strong. The energy feels a bit different than any opiates I'v tried. It felt as if it was buzzing in small rapid waves, a slightly faster resonating buzz. I snapped out of the nodding, as I'm doing some research online. Not feeling too euphoric though I do feel nice. There is a slight heaviness with almost the feeling of very mild nausea but the feeling is quite vague and can not be define as nausea itself.

The effects could have been due from a very slow come up of the tianeptine, but I think the molecules of the bleeding heart synergized with the tianeptine.

I will report back after further experimentation. The effects seemed to come down slightly but I have more leaves in front of me.
 
Chewed 33 leaves over the course of about 3.5 hours. Not much to report at this dose with leaves. Although I probably have a high tolerance at certain opiate receptors.

Felt some very slight tightness in the throat and chest, possibly from astringency. As well as a slight blurriness to my vision. Hearing became more acute. Visual blurriness seemed to mostly fade after some time. Perhaps a wakefulness, or I may just feel awake, lol. Perhaps some color saturation and tracers, though I just furnished my room with led light strips which make a nice ambiance and adds to trippiness, which I felt slightly.

Will stop here for now and try a higher dose at a later date. Did not feel toxic. It did feel psychoactive but effects are subtle albeit interesting. Felt a little bit of a buzz that wasn't like a typical opiate, almost more of an overall feeling of cleanness, almost as if blood alkalinity and pressure were perfect, I don't know; hard to place.

Leaves may be weak this time of year or in general. Root is said to be more potent in alkaloids.

I will move on to testing another plant before returning to this one.
 
Smoked 2 or 3 of the heart shaped flower pods I let dry.
Mild sedating buzz similar to blue lotus.

Would be nice if someone could confirm this, that it's not placebo or resin in my bowl;
Which it shouldn't be, it's a newer bowl which I hit a bunch with a torch earlier in the day to clear it out.
 
I have one of these in my back yard. I'll have to try it out and report back. I'll see if my wife will try it too, maybe it's something that could help her headaches.

What seems best to use, the leaf or the flower? Are you eating whole leaves, smoking them, or brewing a tea with them?

Maybe someone should try an extraction.
 
We have these growing right outside our back door . My wife planted them and they're going crazy right now. I find it interesting
As if the plant is screaming to be noticed and utilized by us.
 
What seems best to use, the leaf or the flower? Are you eating whole leaves, smoking them, or brewing a tea with them?

The root, from what I have read. But I don't want to kill a plant to test it just yet.

I will be testing some other plants before I come back to this, if it is a great recreational drug, the dose is likely quite high, at least like kratom for example. Where the dose would be about 2 tbsp dried leaf powder, which is probably a bit more than what 33 leaves dried and pulverized would turn out to be? a decoction from the aerial portions might be the best way to go without killing it.

Start low and titrate up.
 
Interesting. Some folks I know moved into a new place recently and I spotted this lovely plant right outside their front door. I thought of this thread soon after but I didn't feel like taking a whole lot. So I picked a few observable, somewhat dried leaves and a flower that had dropped on the ground below the plant. Pleasant odor and intriguing alkaloid content.
 

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We must be sure of a substantial and useful psychoactivity first;
The plant may be mostly useless without purified extractions of alkaloid content.
 
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