Exp. Report bridgesii trip - raw consumption

[Skr9]

I wanted to share my first experience with mescaline from homegrown San Pedros of the Bridgesii/Lageniformis variety.


The cuttings from several San Pedros had been lying around for more than half a year when I spontaneously decided to give it a try. Due to the spontaneity of the decision, only raw consumption was an option.


Dose:

• Total length: 30 cm
• Diameter: 4 cm
• Total weight before preparation: 260 g

Preparation:

• Despine by cutting small wedges.
• Quarter lengthwise.
• Peel off the outer waxy skin by simply pulling it off; it was much easier than expected.
• Remove the white inner structure with a diagonal cut lengthwise. Some white material was left.
• Cut into small pieces.

Consumption: Take a spoonful, chew, and swallow it with a sip of orange juice.


Taste: A chewy, mushy green mess that tastes like aspirin. While the taste was certainly far from appealing, it was also far from terrible.


Side Effects: Practically none. Very mild digestive uneasiness. No vomiting or nausea.


Trip: Very intense and long. The trip started about 90 minutes in and lasted for about 12 hours. The effects were extremely similar to LSD at a dose of 150 µg or more, but a little less stimulating and more sedating than LSD.


Conclusion: As a little challenge, I might try to perform an actual extraction, but given how unproblematic the culinary experience was, I wouldn't consider making a brew of it.

 

[Sky Motion]

Inspired me to eat some bridg i got laying around, maybe ill just go raw ... spoonful of honey n ginger after each bite. 260g fresh doeesn't seem like that much physically though. wow! surprised to hear the report was so strong

 

[Trichocereus.Rex]

Conclusion: As a little challenge, I might try to perform an actual extraction, but given how unproblematic the culinary experience was, I wouldn't consider making a brew of it.

Sounds like a good experience! I've know people to put lime juice and chili powder on raw cactus and eat like corn on the cob.
I've got a few recipes for culinary preparations of cactus I've been meaning to share, I'll see if I can write something up today and share it later this week.

One reason to consider making a brew however, is that it minimizes the calciums oxolates in the raw cactus. Not gonna kill you or even harm you in moderation, but if it's something you do often (eat raw) or have any issues with your kidneys, might be worth making tea.

Also cielo. Cielo is amazing

 

[Transform]

The right cactus (most often with bridgesii/lageniformis characteristics, it seems) makes for convenient enough usage in the form of raw ingestion. For columnar specimens, cutting strips as a helical slice about the centre makes removal of both the skin and the woody core very simple, as well as allowing gentle quidding of the plant material.

With quidding, active compounds will be absorbed through the buccal mucosa, which may well provide more efficacy than the gastrointestinal route alone, presumably by sidestepping its associated first-pass metabolism and the consequent breaking up of the goodies before they get to stick to the important receptors.

Quidding of a non-bridgesii specimen was associated with a nasty subsequent headache which didn't occur with brews made from the same plant, so it pays to get to know how best to approach usage of any given lineage of specimens.

 

[doubledog]

active compounds will be absorbed through the buccal mucosa, which may well provide more efficacy than the gastrointestinal route alone, presumably by sidestepping its associated first-pass metabolism and the consequent breaking up of the goodies before they get to stick to the important receptors.

Interesting idea, do you think that sublingual use of pure mescaline could be more effective than oral route?

 

[new_science]

One reason to consider making a brew however, is that it minimizes the calciums oxolates in the raw cactus. Not gonna kill you or even harm you in moderation, but if it's something you do often (eat raw) or have any issues with your kidneys, might be worth making tea.

It was my understanding that while tea does remove some of the oxalates present in the flesh, a not-insignificant amount of them do come along for the liquid ride. The primary reasons I've always extracted my cacti are 1) taste and 2) oxalates. Plus the peace of mind that comes with an exact dose, of course. Do you have any handy sources or empirical data regarding the efficacy of oxalate minimization that making tea provides?

 

[Trichocereus.Rex]

It was my understanding that while tea does remove some of the oxalates present in the flesh, a not-insignificant amount of them do come along for the liquid ride. The primary reasons I've always extracted my cacti are 1) taste and 2) oxalates. Plus the peace of mind that comes with an exact dose, of course. Do you have any handy sources or empirical data regarding the efficacy of oxalate minimization that making tea provides?

I do not have a specific source to cite. It's my understanding (and a Google search confirmed) that calcium oxalates arent very water soluble, so with a fridge rest/decant I think most of it is getting bound up with the fats and gunk that settle out...
It's definitely less than raw by this logic but I don't have numbers to back it up

 

[new_science]

Thanks for the quick response! I found the same result you did, about the water solubility. That is a relief. I like to dose big with my phenethylamines and if I ever need to forego CIELO in a pinch, knowing that I won't get oxalate poisoning from a massive dose of tea is reassuring. Only have to remember to stock up on zofran, heh heh.