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bufo, spice, and caapi really brings out the bufo!

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Im typing this right now to cam myslef down so if the spelling is oof I will fix it later!

I just took 2 big hits, finihsing off my batchof changa..and though what the hell and loaded up a good seeds worth of cebil snuff on top of the changa ashes...

I was only feelign the changa for the first fe minutes..after I came down a bit(thought so anyway) I turned on the lights and sat down with some music..and BOOM..the bufo kicked in..and for the first time ever it is VERy psychedelic...I cant eventell if this is the DMT of Bufo but I almost freaked a bit..the computer screen was like melting and I couldt make anysense of it! All the white font right now is shimering with rainbow fractals and I cant really read it for more than 2 seconds at atime..surprised I can tryper!

i think it camedown a notch now cus I cam at least see things and make sense of them at the same time...there was a bit of 5meo in there as wwell...adn there is this ringing inmyears now..kind of annoying..

I dont know why but I had this dreadful sense of doom when it all hit me like that...it felt super psychedelic, amlost liek ego death..nothing made sense..there was just lots of melting colours and rainbow fractals...the nature of the trip Ihave NVER had with either bufo or DMT/changa alone...

I dunno if others have tried this combo but all I can say is holy shit..it actualy had me afraid! I hate pacingbackand forth waiting for a trip to end..and it almost got to that..I had to shut off the music because it was too much..and tooklots of effot to ebven do it..

Before I switched the lights oni was sitting on the floor in a silent dark room and I could see this immense grid forming..but it must have just beenthe spice, becaue I felt myslef comming down a bit so thats when I went to listen to music..I should have known and waited for the bufo to peak.

Smoking the snuff alone didnt even come close to that..things werent making sense at all, sort of like 5meo overdose..but the visuals were honestly getting to be too much at the same time..its crazy becasue I know that the screen right now is black and white..but the lettes all have liek flaming rainbows shimmering off of them...the bufo makes it last much longer..but the spice makes the bufo visuals come out of hiding..it was distinctly differnt from a spice only experience..I have gone farther with spice whenI breakthrough..but this was still more of a mindwarp..and the visuals were overlayed over everything, like neon spiderwebs and Icouldnt see reality through them. Spice never does that to me without breaking through and basically losing conciousness. The visuals were of a differnt nature as well..i wish I would have just sat still and payed attention instead of freaking out trying to come back..haha I kept attempting to read english to see if I could make sense of it yet for like 5 minutes straight.

Next tiem I will be prepared and go within..
 
woooooooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooo!
FE you are doing a great job of bioassying changa and bringing it to new levels... really showing us what we can do with it. thank you so much for your experimentation.
swim has mixed Bufo extract in chanag and given it to folk as gifts... but has not heard back reports... this shows that even just a seed will do...
the next question is will just concentrated caapi leaf smoked alone bring out the visionary aspects of a cebil seed? can one just crush up a seed of cebil and add it to some caapi leaf and get the desired effects?
does one need to add lime or basify the seed first?
all very important questions...

but you pushed it and showed us that spice with caapi and cebil together will do something extraordinary thanks!
 
It also lasted way longer than I imagined it would...I couln'd get to sleep until 4 am last night..when I tried to fall asleap I started to have slight visualizations in the dark that leasted until about 2am..with euphoria that was almost boarderlining on too much while laying there trying to sleep.

Plus it began to downpour outside, like crazy rainfall and I sleep with an openwindow becasue it's so hot still and it kept forming auditory hallucinatons. Bufo never lasts that long for me..it was sort of like an actaul psilocybin trip, maybe a bit shorter...

When I did fall asleap I had some strange dreams..really psychedelic..where I ate some mushrooms and went to a conferecne on psychedelics and was hanging out with johnothan ott tripping balls! The whole precesion of dream scenes was really weird and random..

There was other dream stuff going on as well..lots of stuff all night long.

The only downside was that some of the negative body load effects present with unextracted bufo were amplified a little bit..like my back was sore for a while, and my neck as well..not that bad though. I get a bit of a sore back with mushrooms as well. It's fine now though, and I actaully feel that great antidepressive bufo afterglow..

Next time I will prob try it earlier on in the evening..usually bufo makes it easy to sleep people say...but there was too much going on behind my skull to sleep. THere is this aspect to bufo that no other tryptamine I have encountered has where when I close my eyes after the peak I can sort of live dream scenes that are quite strange, without even being fully aware of it until I open my eyes again..
 
I would basify the seeds first for sure...

I made my stuff by roasting the seeds in the oven, grinding them with mortar and pestle, basing with sodium carbonate, and then roasting once more.

Whenever I tested the seeds without preparing them they gave me bad side effects without visuals.

I think the toasting is vital to burn off some of the toxins and some have said that it may convert back some of the bufo N oxide as well..
 
arent you effectively toasting them when smoking them though? seemed redundant to toast them if your going to smoke them. Swim has never noticed any differences... adding a base though is interesting... might really make a difference... it woudld need to be used right away though swim has noticed that after making snuff it looses potency over time...

as far as the body load is concerned... there is no reason why one could not drinka little of alcohol to ease the side effects... Swims smoked changa drunk enough times to be able to say that its fine... and has also noticed that drinking or eating a seed when drinking alcohol and then smoking caapi also seriously enhances its visionary effects and euphoria...
so how long in all did this last for you? start to finish?
 
lasted at least 4 hours before the euphoric stimulation let up and I was able to sleep. When I smoke bufo by itself it lasts about 2 hours in total..not visually but the euphoria is felt for about 2 good hours for me..so makes sense that the cappi would double it..

When I toast them..they weigh less after..and have alwasy felt more toxic beofre hand..something gets vaporized off, and its not bufo because I make sure that it's not hot enough for that. When I smoked freebased seeds that were not toasted I couldnt take more than 1 hit ever because of the side effects..but that could have been the seeds I had. I just dont want to try smoking a raw seed from the batch I have now because I like the stuff I have been preparing..before I was almost ready to give up on the seeds..so who know? maybe I just have a good batch..

But if there is toxins that are vaping off in the oven, I think that if one was to smoke the raw seeds, that those toxins would then be vapped and inhaled..becasue i toast at a lower temp than the boiling point of bufo, so if my lighter flame can vaporize the bufotenine than I think that it will also vap whatever I am toasting away..

Prob makes them easier to smoke as well becasue lots of the fats are toasted away..but you will loose the DMT and 5meo in the seeds as well, but I am not worried about that.

I had a tiny bit of coffee about an hour before hand as well(1/4 of a cup), which I dont normally drink so that might havehad some synergistic effects..
 
I feel like the medicine was working on me all nite long on a subtle level..like it rearranged somethiing inside of my head. I felt so nice and clean when I woke up, I still feel it. I feel euphoric withouttaking anything today. I only slept a few hours and stil felt good and alive. I was out at the beach at 10am in the water skimboarding, and just checking out the crabs and starfish alonf the pier..I wanted to take it all in, it was such a beautiful september morning..all the trees changing colours.

Im going to try a seed or 2 in a brew as admixture along with chalipinga eventually..they really seem to provide an awesome afterglow..maybe because bufo is so close to seratonin, we all know seratonin makes people happy:d ..basically its just methylated seratonin.
 
you toasted them afterwards too what temp did you toast them I just toasted some then freebased with sodium carbonate at about 400,but have not toasted the freebase. I read in other threads that bufo doesn't vaporize til 500 something,or above?
 
Wow. I don't see too many people posting reports about 5-meo, bufo, AND dmt mixes. There is only one way I would attempt that. If I had been on vacation for at least a month, I was happy w/ nothing stressful on my mind, in the light, in a comfortable place.

Then maybe I would try that. Maybe you should try to up the dose, turn the lights on, lay in bed and go realy far : ) peace
 
ahhh this has gotten SWIM interesting in bufo again....he really loves the stuff...but hasnt gotten the full blown effects yet....he does like eating a seed here or there..but usually that blasts him pretty good
 
ya its good stuff eh.. when mixed with spice it's power really comes out..

When you eat the seeds do you toast them or just eat it raw? Im rel apprehensive about eating these things..but it would be awesome..

Cant wait to try 4-HO DMT and 5-HO DMT together..like long lost brothers..
Planning on psilocybin tonight so I might smoke some bufo depending on how it goes...
 
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