I want to start a thread where we can document the different states produced from all the various combinations of bufotenine with other substances..I have used bufotenine alone many times, and also in combination many times. Personally I find it pointless to dose bufotenine by itself so I dont do it anymore, the experience seems boring and useless..just meaningless hallucinations with no story or anything meaningful behing them..but when combined with certain substances I find that they will open up the space for the bufotenine to really become something useful..it's as if it has trouble producing its full range of effects by itself and needs a sort of translator in the form of admixtures to allow it to really speak.
*CAAPI/Ayahuasca
I always take bufotenine with caapi now. Without it it just feels kind of naked and I cant really figure out why I am doing it becasue while there are hallucinations they seem distant and removed. With the caapi extract made into bufotenine changa the space is opened up a bit more, its a bit more DMT like and it seems to have more meaning..I tested some plan bufotenine by itself a few days ago just to refresh my memory, there is def a positive change in the experience when harmalas are smoked with it. Caapi is also a vasiodialator so it will counteract some of the constriction associated with bufotenine.
When a caapi only brew is drank and the bufotenine changa smoked durring the effects of the brew it is far superior to either buftenine alone and even when the harmalas are only smoked with it. No matter how much harmalas I add to the changa, I cant get back to the place it takes me with a brew as well. With a brew the space opens up much much more, the visuals are cleared up alot, less skaetchy and more chrystaline, much more like NN-DMT..the experience is much more beautiful and meaningful than bufotenine alone and there is a very nice mentally psychedelic quality associated with it. You can really feel the bufotenine merge with the caapi spirit, like it was meant to be this way and the experience is much more submersive. To me caapi and bufotenine are meant to be together, without the caapi something is missing.
*Mimosa and Caapi
With a brew of caapi and mimosa its even nicer. It has that same ayahuasca spirit infused throughout the experience, but the mimosa clears up the bufotenine visuals even more and even with the smallest bit of mimosa its like a DMT breakthrough, but a bit more navigatable. You dont need astrong brew for this..15g caapi and 1-2 g mimosa is enough to really synergise and open one up to the bufotenine space when the bufotenine is taken 45-60 minutes after th brew is drank. It will hold you there deep in a very submersive and beautiful visionary trance for 15 minutes or more, then there is a nice afterglow with lots of visuals and euphoria and you can keep redosing until the brew wears off.
*Coffee, Yerba Mate, Green Tea
I find that a small dose of coffee before hand can really add a mentally uplifting and stimulating aspect to the bufotenine experience, since bufotenine itself is sort of sedating and relaxing. I have found myself falling asleap numerous times in the middle of a deep visionary trance with bufotenine. Caffine also makes the experience slightly more psychedelic mentally. WIth yerba mate there is a bit more of an ampathic quality I notice when i drink it, its not psychedelic but its mildly euphoric and empathic, and goes very well with bufotenine..just be careful not to take too much caffine when you combine it with harmalas as well or it will become too stimulating and unpleasant.
*Salvia Divinorum
I have also taken bufotenine in combination with a low dose Salvia quid. I started with a tiny 1/4 cup of coffee about 30 mins before the experiment. I then quidded one very large salvia leaf from my plant, about the size of my hand for roughly 15 minutes. Then a large dose of bufotenine changa was smoked. This combination was very immrsive..salvinorin for me at that mild a dose has a veryslight opening quality to it, where I can feel space "widening" and everything becomes very medative. With the bufotenine the salvia seemed to really open me up and widen my perception of the bufotenine space. I could somewht feel the membranes of the walls of geometic light I was moving through into newer spaces. The caffine helped to keep me more alert since harmalas, bufotenine and salvia are all somewhat sedating for me. The bufotenine visuals were a bit more like DMT visuals, more clear and crisp than usual with just bufotenine changa. I only tried this combo once so I cant speak much more about it yet. Salvia is a vasodialator as well so it helps a bit with the constriction of bufotenine.
*DMT
When bufotenine and DMT are mixed together in a changa it is very very psychedelic, extremely visual and 3d..you dont need much DMT added to it eiher, just a light light dose will really synergise with a dose of bufotenine. Most of my experiences combining bufotenine with DMT have been with oral DMT in ayahuasca brews,I have only smoked the 2 together about 2 times many months ago, so I cant comment on that too much at the moment.
*Ginger
Ginger is a great vasodialtor and helps with nausea, I like to drink it before I work with bufotenine.
*Cacao/chocolate
Cacao is great to drink before bufotenine..I really like cacao and chocolate. If you get the good stuff that is strong and not over processed its mildy empathic for me and synergises nicely with caapi and bufotenine..just dont take too much if you are dosing with harmalas..the theobromine and caffine will be potentiated, so start low.
...so far my favorite way to take bufotenine is to drink either a caapi only ayahuasca brew or caapi with a bit of mimosa, then take the bufotenine durring the peak of the brew, in complete darkness with trancy msuci playing. I tried bufotenine once many months ago with some rum and it was absolutily horrible. I dont drink much at all but for me they definatily do NOT mix well..
Things I will try in the future are bufotenin with cannabis, since I dont smoke often i get lots of psychedelic effects from canabis when I do smoke, so that should be interesting with bufotenine. Bufotenine with mapacho as well, since its trational there might be something there..also bufotenine with a very light dose of tropane plants like henbane, datura etc interests me as well, but I have yet to even touch nightshades at all...oh and of course..bufotenine near the end of a mushroom experience.
*CAAPI/Ayahuasca
I always take bufotenine with caapi now. Without it it just feels kind of naked and I cant really figure out why I am doing it becasue while there are hallucinations they seem distant and removed. With the caapi extract made into bufotenine changa the space is opened up a bit more, its a bit more DMT like and it seems to have more meaning..I tested some plan bufotenine by itself a few days ago just to refresh my memory, there is def a positive change in the experience when harmalas are smoked with it. Caapi is also a vasiodialator so it will counteract some of the constriction associated with bufotenine.
When a caapi only brew is drank and the bufotenine changa smoked durring the effects of the brew it is far superior to either buftenine alone and even when the harmalas are only smoked with it. No matter how much harmalas I add to the changa, I cant get back to the place it takes me with a brew as well. With a brew the space opens up much much more, the visuals are cleared up alot, less skaetchy and more chrystaline, much more like NN-DMT..the experience is much more beautiful and meaningful than bufotenine alone and there is a very nice mentally psychedelic quality associated with it. You can really feel the bufotenine merge with the caapi spirit, like it was meant to be this way and the experience is much more submersive. To me caapi and bufotenine are meant to be together, without the caapi something is missing.
*Mimosa and Caapi
With a brew of caapi and mimosa its even nicer. It has that same ayahuasca spirit infused throughout the experience, but the mimosa clears up the bufotenine visuals even more and even with the smallest bit of mimosa its like a DMT breakthrough, but a bit more navigatable. You dont need astrong brew for this..15g caapi and 1-2 g mimosa is enough to really synergise and open one up to the bufotenine space when the bufotenine is taken 45-60 minutes after th brew is drank. It will hold you there deep in a very submersive and beautiful visionary trance for 15 minutes or more, then there is a nice afterglow with lots of visuals and euphoria and you can keep redosing until the brew wears off.
*Coffee, Yerba Mate, Green Tea
I find that a small dose of coffee before hand can really add a mentally uplifting and stimulating aspect to the bufotenine experience, since bufotenine itself is sort of sedating and relaxing. I have found myself falling asleap numerous times in the middle of a deep visionary trance with bufotenine. Caffine also makes the experience slightly more psychedelic mentally. WIth yerba mate there is a bit more of an ampathic quality I notice when i drink it, its not psychedelic but its mildly euphoric and empathic, and goes very well with bufotenine..just be careful not to take too much caffine when you combine it with harmalas as well or it will become too stimulating and unpleasant.
*Salvia Divinorum
I have also taken bufotenine in combination with a low dose Salvia quid. I started with a tiny 1/4 cup of coffee about 30 mins before the experiment. I then quidded one very large salvia leaf from my plant, about the size of my hand for roughly 15 minutes. Then a large dose of bufotenine changa was smoked. This combination was very immrsive..salvinorin for me at that mild a dose has a veryslight opening quality to it, where I can feel space "widening" and everything becomes very medative. With the bufotenine the salvia seemed to really open me up and widen my perception of the bufotenine space. I could somewht feel the membranes of the walls of geometic light I was moving through into newer spaces. The caffine helped to keep me more alert since harmalas, bufotenine and salvia are all somewhat sedating for me. The bufotenine visuals were a bit more like DMT visuals, more clear and crisp than usual with just bufotenine changa. I only tried this combo once so I cant speak much more about it yet. Salvia is a vasodialator as well so it helps a bit with the constriction of bufotenine.
*DMT
When bufotenine and DMT are mixed together in a changa it is very very psychedelic, extremely visual and 3d..you dont need much DMT added to it eiher, just a light light dose will really synergise with a dose of bufotenine. Most of my experiences combining bufotenine with DMT have been with oral DMT in ayahuasca brews,I have only smoked the 2 together about 2 times many months ago, so I cant comment on that too much at the moment.
*Ginger
Ginger is a great vasodialtor and helps with nausea, I like to drink it before I work with bufotenine.
*Cacao/chocolate
Cacao is great to drink before bufotenine..I really like cacao and chocolate. If you get the good stuff that is strong and not over processed its mildy empathic for me and synergises nicely with caapi and bufotenine..just dont take too much if you are dosing with harmalas..the theobromine and caffine will be potentiated, so start low.
...so far my favorite way to take bufotenine is to drink either a caapi only ayahuasca brew or caapi with a bit of mimosa, then take the bufotenine durring the peak of the brew, in complete darkness with trancy msuci playing. I tried bufotenine once many months ago with some rum and it was absolutily horrible. I dont drink much at all but for me they definatily do NOT mix well..
Things I will try in the future are bufotenin with cannabis, since I dont smoke often i get lots of psychedelic effects from canabis when I do smoke, so that should be interesting with bufotenine. Bufotenine with mapacho as well, since its trational there might be something there..also bufotenine with a very light dose of tropane plants like henbane, datura etc interests me as well, but I have yet to even touch nightshades at all...oh and of course..bufotenine near the end of a mushroom experience.