I've seen plausible claims that sediment can sometimes contain significant amounts of harmine. Would you say that this possibility has impacted your experience with using filtered brews?
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Caapi and chacruna cook separately?
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I have heard the same claim from different cooks as well, but none of them ever tried proper filtration. For me if the liquid has no solids then the taste and texture is less repulsive and a lot easier on the guts. It will still crunch it, but less spasms. I have a tough stomach but weak mind, going to hurl while peaking has been too traumatic too many times.
My filtering is a sequential overkill and a lot of work... Must pass by coffee filter otherwise it's unacceptable. Passing through 2x wypeall x80 works sufficiently well. MHRB and caapi, cooked independently for 30 min (a first 15 min pressure cook is good, more difficult to filter) in pH 4-5 citric acid water, filtered while hot, sediments back to cauldron and repeat 3x. At the end measure volume or weights and mix for final 0.5 mhrb : 1 caapi original material. Then boil that down to what would be 50-100 mL shots and push through aeropress for final filtration. If too thick, then it will get turbid after cooling, not a problem if you reheat prior to consuming. Adjustment to pH 7 makes little difference. It always requires low dose testing.
Keeping the magics separated works better for all steps, cooking, filtering, refrigeration, dosing (caapi first, mhrb later), brew adjustment (add more of this than the other and so on) and body load management.
Then I learned of the nexus... No more brews for me, ever.
My filtering is a sequential overkill and a lot of work... Must pass by coffee filter otherwise it's unacceptable. Passing through 2x wypeall x80 works sufficiently well. MHRB and caapi, cooked independently for 30 min (a first 15 min pressure cook is good, more difficult to filter) in pH 4-5 citric acid water, filtered while hot, sediments back to cauldron and repeat 3x. At the end measure volume or weights and mix for final 0.5 mhrb : 1 caapi original material. Then boil that down to what would be 50-100 mL shots and push through aeropress for final filtration. If too thick, then it will get turbid after cooling, not a problem if you reheat prior to consuming. Adjustment to pH 7 makes little difference. It always requires low dose testing.
Keeping the magics separated works better for all steps, cooking, filtering, refrigeration, dosing (caapi first, mhrb later), brew adjustment (add more of this than the other and so on) and body load management.
Then I learned of the nexus... No more brews for me, ever.
I guess MHRB solids are best left out of the equation - although an "ayahuasca sandwich" with bark powder and rue was wholly unproblematic for the guts, if my experience is anything to go by. It's even more of a stretch making that comparison, when I was originally thinking of a classic chacruna+caapi brew, ofc.
Hello, good evening. I finally made the ayahuasca today. I just finished everything.
Out of 100g of caapi and 85g of chacruna, I got 155ml. I don't know if I could have reduced it any further; I was afraid it would evaporate. In fact, since I bought 100g of yellow caapi and 100g of black, I made two. One got 155ml and the other 190ml. This last one seemed to be starting to caramelize.
I'll try the yellow one tomorrow.
I really appreciate the help. I don't know how many times I've read the post "All About Aya," haha.
Thank you so much!
Out of 100g of caapi and 85g of chacruna, I got 155ml. I don't know if I could have reduced it any further; I was afraid it would evaporate. In fact, since I bought 100g of yellow caapi and 100g of black, I made two. One got 155ml and the other 190ml. This last one seemed to be starting to caramelize.
I'll try the yellow one tomorrow.
I really appreciate the help. I don't know how many times I've read the post "All About Aya," haha.
Thank you so much!
Hello, this morning I took ayahusca. It was a 4-hour trip plus the final comedown. I took 90 ml in 3 doses. For my first brew, I'm very happy. I was a little afraid of how the result would be, but I feel very good.
I have to say it was different from the first time I took it. This time, the trip wasn't very linear. Instead, when I felt the heat of the ayahusca passing through my body, I had the biggest peaks.
I had very diffuse and surreal visions, with very vivid colors, but above all, many demons, snakes, dragons, and various monsters on a net background with diamond shapes changing colors that enveloped me when I felt that heat in my body. I also had visions of my father (may he rest in peace) crying, that made me really sad It also involved internal things that I need to heal, as expected.
By doing it during the day, I closed the entire house to let in as little light as possible.
The bad thing is that I went to the bathroom more than 10 times, and there were no blinds. I went in with my hand covering my face, haha. And I haven't purged. What does that mean?
Well, I'll share a little bit of my experience. Next week I'll take the other one, the one with the black cap.
I have to say it was different from the first time I took it. This time, the trip wasn't very linear. Instead, when I felt the heat of the ayahusca passing through my body, I had the biggest peaks.
I had very diffuse and surreal visions, with very vivid colors, but above all, many demons, snakes, dragons, and various monsters on a net background with diamond shapes changing colors that enveloped me when I felt that heat in my body. I also had visions of my father (may he rest in peace) crying, that made me really sad It also involved internal things that I need to heal, as expected.
By doing it during the day, I closed the entire house to let in as little light as possible.
The bad thing is that I went to the bathroom more than 10 times, and there were no blinds. I went in with my hand covering my face, haha. And I haven't purged. What does that mean?
Well, I'll share a little bit of my experience. Next week I'll take the other one, the one with the black cap.
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I'm so glad to hear how your first homebrew went. You took the plunge, what an effort.
Not purging can be because of a range of things. Ive often heard it said that Ayahuasca works on your digestion, getting it all ready to purge and if you don't purge on one night, you might purge the next (if drinking so close together). Maybe your diet was really clean. I don't always purge and actually purged less when I first drank, now I purge almost every time lol.
Not purging can be because of a range of things. Ive often heard it said that Ayahuasca works on your digestion, getting it all ready to purge and if you don't purge on one night, you might purge the next (if drinking so close together). Maybe your diet was really clean. I don't always purge and actually purged less when I first drank, now I purge almost every time lol.
