Calliandra angustifolia and Calliandra pentandra - sources of THH?

[69ron]

SWIM has looked into getting Calliandra pentandra, but can't find it anywhere. I’ve read that this plant contains only THH. What about Calliandra angustifolia? Does that also only contain THH?

 

[69ron]

For those who are interested, SWIM’s been doing a little research and found 2 plants said to only contain THH: Calliandra pentandra and Leptactinia densiflora.

In doing this research, SWIM also came across a plant that is said to be very high in 5-MeO-DMT called Pilocarpus organensis. It is said to contain up to 1%.

Also something else that’s quite interesting. There’s a plant called Banisteriopsis miricata which contains both DMT and harmala alkaloids and can be used to make DMT style ayahuasca without any additives. Look here:

Mayahuasca
For several years there has been considerable speculation that the pre-Columbian Maya may have used a psychoactive ritual drink that was an ayahuasca analog. It has been conjectured that the Mayans used a Banisteriopsis species that grows in the Mesoamerican lowlands in combination with a source of DMT to make "mayahuasca" (Hyman 1994). It is entirely possible that Banisteriopsis miricata was used for this purpose, as its stems contain harmine and its leaves DMT. In other words, it is possible that an ayahuasca analog was made from just one plant.

 

[Jorkest]

i feel like ive read that before 69ron..about the dmt and harmala alkaloids in one plant..

 

[69ron]

Yeah I’ve heard that somewhere else too.

Do you know where you can get Banisteriopsis miricata or any of those other plants?

 

[Jorkest]

ha...no i dont...but ill be on the lookout

 

[Jorkest]

69ron are you sure on the spelling...did a google search and it comes up with Banisteriopsis muricata

 

[Jorkest]

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[Jorkest]

http://www.ethnopharmacology.com/ayahuasca/

this article mentions it too

 

[Jorkest]

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[69ron]

I copied the spelling exactly from the original text, but I still think it's wrong. I think the correct spelling is actually Banisteriopsis muricata as Google has it.

SWIM would LOVE to get access to that plant.

 

[skunkjar]

Tommy the neighbourhood hippie says he can get extract of Calliandra angustifolia, but all the vendor site says is "extracts of Calliandra angustifolia leaf contains tetra hydro harman." I assume they tetra hydro harmine... Tommy has dealt with this dealer's chemist for years and has never been disapointed by their product's quality. I will have Tommy send him an email to try to get more info and perhaps find a source for the unextracted plant material.

 

[biopsylo]

http://www.maya-ethnobotanicals.com/product_browse.phtml/catid_14/subid_1109/

quick search turned up this, if u havnt come across it yet

 

[prottel]

http://www.iherb.com/Rain-Tree-Nutrition-Bobinsana-1-lb/17510?utm_source=gb&utm_medium=pf

You can buy it from iherb. 1lb for 20 dollars.
Would be interesting to see what the yields of harmalas would be.

I read on the raintree site that it supposedly contain harmalas.

 

[biopsylo]

what part of the tree would contain the harmalas?
^^^ that 1lb from iherb does not look like leaves.

 

[geeg30]

I think with the Pilocarpus organensis there is a problem with Pilocarpine which they use as eyedrops and to induce saliva and even chronic epilepsy in rats - don't really know if its such a nice substance to ingest or the % in the plant. Not really that much info on the plant to be found.