Can I smoke herbs then emesh after?

[dazultra]

Can I smoke these herbs and after use the emesh for DMT? Like Changa but separate?

herbs:

• ~300 mg mullein
• ~300 mg blue lotus
• ~200–300 mg passionflower
• 5–10 mg Syrian rue

If so would you adjust these?

How much DMT would you use in the emesh? I currently use between 15-25mg

I’ve never tried Changa and will make some soon, I was wondering if this would work too.

Thanks!

 

[Skr9]

Yes, sure. You can smoke the herbs and then vape DMT in about 10 minutes. It should work the best.

 

[blig-blug]

Bear in mind that the point of mullein is just to serve as a neutral base, it has no effect by itself other than being mildly bronchodillatory. Also, you probably need to extract the syrian rue, I don't think smoking the seeds would be too easy or pleasant.

 

[northape]

I’ve never tried Changa and will make some soon, I was wondering if this would work too.

I'd advise not to seek a shortcut and just make your own changa

Also, you probably need to extract the syrian rue, I don't think smoking the seeds would be too easy or pleasant.

@blig-blug is right on point. It's possible to smoke seeds, but it's not very pleasant and totally unnecessary. You won't get the same effect as extract, either.
Syrian rue is a great incense on the other hand and could be burned before your DMT session. I like to burn it with Palo Santo in 50/50 proportion.
It would even add to the effect somewhat, most likely. Just burn it over a coal and breath in deeply a few times. It's very healing in itself.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Just vape some rue extract or eat it and then vape your DMT 10 to 20 minutes after. Making an herbal blend is just extra work.

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[Sakkadelic]

Ime smoalking a bowl of rue seeds is effective, it's not that bad if you use a bong and control the flame and how much smoalk you take in. Of course I prefer a much smaller pile of pure freebase harmalas which I almost always have on hand. I use it like that if I want to mix it with weed, for changa I just make changa :b

 

[1Starway7]

you can also... vape or combust ... rue seed......[vaping is cleaner].... to slow down DMTs effects and melow out the experiance...

 

[dazultra]

Bear in mind that the point of mullein is just to serve as a neutral base, it has no effect by itself other than being mildly bronchodillatory. Also, you probably need to extract the syrian rue, I don't think smoking the seeds would be too easy or pleasant.

The Syrian rue I got is a powder, it says on the pack ‘peganum harmala extract 10g 20:1.
I tried it last week with 5mg harmala and the herbs above, it helped lots as I was totally chill when I used the emesh with only 10mg DMT the trip still came on super fast and faded quick too. Any idea how much harmala extract I should use doing it like this? Thanks!

 

[dazultra]

I'd advise not to seek a shortcut and just make your own changa

@blig-blug is right on point. It's possible to smoke seeds, but it's not very pleasant and totally unnecessary. You won't get the same effect as extract, either.
Syrian rue is a great incense on the other hand and could be burned before your DMT session. I like to burn it with Palo Santo in 50/50 proportion.
It would even add to the effect somewhat, most likely. Just burn it over a coal and breath in deeply a few times. It's very healing in itself.

Thanks! That sounds interesting, the Syrian rue I have seems to be already extracted it says on the pack ‘peganum harmala extract 10g 20:1’
How much would you use with the Palo Santo? I like the idea of that!
What effect has it on its own? you say it’s very healing, I’m intrigued!
Thanks

 

[dazultra]

Just vape some rue extract or eat it and then vape your DMT 10 to 20 minutes after. Making an herbal blend is just extra work.

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I’ve got a glass Vapor genie, how much would I use? Would I just put it on the steel pad?
If I eat it how much would I use?
Thanks!

 

[dazultra]

Ime smoalking a bowl of rue seeds is effective, it's not that bad if you use a bong and control the flame and how much smoalk you take in. Of course I prefer a much smaller pile of pure freebase harmalas which I almost always have on hand. I use it like that if I want to mix it with weed, for changa I just make changa :b

What’s it like with weed?

 

[dazultra]

you can also... vape or combust ... rue seed......[vaping is cleaner].... to slow down DMTs effects and melow out the experiance...

How much would you use in a glass Vapor genie?
How does it mellow things out, does it come on slower/last longer?
Thanks!

 

[blig-blug]

The Syrian rue I got is a powder, it says on the pack ‘peganum harmala extract 10g 20:1.

Ah, that's good then. Assuming 5% harmala alkaloids in Peganum harmala, a 20:1 extract should be mostly alkaloids.

If you're going to vaporize it, just know that it needs higher temperatures than DMT.

 

[dazultra]

Ah, that's good then. Assuming 5% harmala alkaloids in Peganum harmala, a 20:1 extract should be mostly alkaloids.

If you're going to vaporize it, just know that it needs higher temperatures than DMT.

Is it better to burn it? I could put some of the herbs and sprinkle it on top with it in the Vapor genie and get a cherry glow going. Do you reckon that would work?

I just read 300-500mg is a typical dose.

I can just eat it and wait too.

Thanks for your help!

 

[blig-blug]

Is it better to burn it? I could put some of the herbs and sprinkle it on top with it in the Vapor genie and get a cherry glow going. Do you reckon that would work?

I'm not sure if you can combine vaporizing with burning the harmalas (but I don't know, other members will know).

I can just eat it and wait too.

Sounds like probably a better idea. You can take them sublingually too, you'll need less.

I just read 300-500mg is a typical dose.

No, be very careful. If it's close to pure alkaloids, that's a high oral dose, and an extreme sublingual or vaporized dose. It could be dangerous to vaporize that much. You have basically all the info you need about doses etc. here: Wiki - The Nexian DMT Handbook

 

[Sakkadelic]

What’s it like with weed?

I find that it takes the edge off and gives a calmer high

 

[Voidmatrix]

I find that it takes the edge off and gives a calmer high

I feel this way too, but for others it can make the experience more... precarious.

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[Voidmatrix]

I’ve got a glass Vapor genie, how much would I use? Would I just put it on the steel pad?
If I eat it how much would I use?
Thanks!

Here ya go!

Different forms of ingestion and dosages (smoked dmt, jurema/mimosa, syrian rue, ayahuasca, etc)

Important: If taking anything for first time, START LOW! These numbers below are just for general reference, remember that there are high individual variations, so be prudent. DMT SMOKED DMT FREEBASE: (depending on smoking method) moderate/strong/breakthrough dose: 30-50mg SMOKED JUNGLE...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

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[dazultra]

I find that it takes the edge off and gives a calmer high

Thanks, I’ve got to try this! How much would you roughly use in a joint?

 

[Sakkadelic]

Just sprinkle some on there, you only need a little bit. It's hard to tell the true strength of that kind of extract, if you don't feel a difference put a little more next time.