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Can you get proper LSD anymore?
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69ron said:
So violence to fight violence. Fair enough.
It's not relevant to the war on drugs.
69ron
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I never said it was relevant to drugs. Drugs are not an important issue. If people cannot buy drugs legally, they are not enslaved, beaten, killed, etc. So using violence in this case is overkill. When violence is needed, it's needed. But when you simply want to change some very minor lifestyle laws like drug use laws, resorting to violence is going to make you look bad, very bad, in the eyes of others. How can one justify violence in this case when no one is being harmed by drugs being illegal?
Well yeah that's my point. I guess with the thread being about LSD...
never mind.
never mind.
ismokecrystals
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soulfood said:
This thread has gone very off topic. I think further discussion should be moved to chat/other threads.
I have people telling me all the time that they can get me some acid. However NOBODY EVERY COMES THROUGH. I just want some good acid... hell, if one of those people actually comes through I plan to toss them a significant amount of the deemsters in good faith.
I hear psytrance shows/festivals are a good place to go looking. Anyone here into that stuff that can point me in the right direction?
That was exactly my point. Any call for violence in this matter is absurd and counterproductive.69ron said:
I must say though, that a violent uproar in tibet or xinjang, would be counterproductive as well. China is never going to let those regions become independant.
The maximum result any separatist movement can reach is immense bloodshed.
If there would have been any realistic option for separation of tibet, the dalai-lama would support that option.
Many westerners are way too naive, when it comes to supporting all kinds of liberation movements.
revolution has a romantic side that appeals to many people, but in reality it often is not so nice as it appears to be at first.
The many communist governments are a good example of this and the many failed revolutions (often against these same revolutionary governments) are an example of this as well.
Revolution against a government like that of saddam hussein, was never a realistic otion and also in iran, a violent revolution will never succeed unless there are powers within the government itself that also support change.
In all those cases, it is counterproductive.
All kurds, palestinians, uygur's, cheznians and tibetans have become or will become a target for extreme and brutal violence. And in the end nothing changes.
SWIM has been buying bud off this new guy that he's known for close to 10-11 months. One day on a budd pickup, he had mentioned to me "Hey a friend of mine knows a chemist thats synthing LSD right now and he just sold me a sheet." SWIM was dumbfounded because it's been close to 2 years since SWIMs past LSD experiences during the winter months. SWIM used to get the white fluff and lavender frequently.
Anyways, being very skeptical of SWIMs new find SWIM decided to purchase a 5 strip. Very small squares. Acouple different designs.
Two nights back SWIM and his good friend each took 1 hit just to gauge the experience. SWIM took his an hour prior to his friend coming over. SWIM strapped on the headphones and blasted his playlist of shpongle. Near the hour mark SWIM started to feel strong stimulation in his legs. Like a massive amount of energy running through his legs...slowly working up to his upper body. Felt really good. SWIMs senses (smell & taste) changed quite a bit, the air smelled quite different and SWIM picked up what seemed to be every aroma of his moms bean soup that was simmering (mind you my door to the computer room was closed). The computer screen started to twist just ever' so slightly. SWIM could hear the different tones n' levels in the music and appreciated it much more than he normally would! SWIM got a text from his friend saying he was here. SWIM proceeded to walk outside, and as soon as SWIM stepped out to grret his friend looked up at the clouds and they were twisting and moving very fast....sooo damn beautiful with the moon!!!! SWIM was almost drooling at the stimulation/visuals. The grass had this soft & gentle wave to it. The sky was around 3 or so colors but all drastic shades of the same color.
Trees twisted and fluxed as if by the wind, but evrything outside was dead silent. SWIM had the biggest smile of his life. Pure bliss, pure delight in his being!! And nearing the end of the night SWIM and his friend talked quite abit about science, philosophy and the like while lying on the ground looking at the MULTITUDE of very crisp/bright stars that canvassed the sky. And for one final idea, SWIM decided while lying on the ground to just dead stare at an area of the clouds right above the fluxing tree tops without flinching. The cloudsn'sky seemed to mesh in with the trees and everything else slightly visible in SWIMs periphial meshed along with it creating this ONE infinite energetic/electric state of being. All was one! :shock: All in all SWIM didnt get much sleep and the next day had reminents of mental stimulation with nearly no body ache from the highly stimulating orgasm that took over SWIM's body!
Enough rant. This night SWIM experienced had to be one of the most beautiful things ever. Hooray for LSD!!
Anyways, being very skeptical of SWIMs new find SWIM decided to purchase a 5 strip. Very small squares. Acouple different designs.
Two nights back SWIM and his good friend each took 1 hit just to gauge the experience. SWIM took his an hour prior to his friend coming over. SWIM strapped on the headphones and blasted his playlist of shpongle. Near the hour mark SWIM started to feel strong stimulation in his legs. Like a massive amount of energy running through his legs...slowly working up to his upper body. Felt really good. SWIMs senses (smell & taste) changed quite a bit, the air smelled quite different and SWIM picked up what seemed to be every aroma of his moms bean soup that was simmering (mind you my door to the computer room was closed). The computer screen started to twist just ever' so slightly. SWIM could hear the different tones n' levels in the music and appreciated it much more than he normally would! SWIM got a text from his friend saying he was here. SWIM proceeded to walk outside, and as soon as SWIM stepped out to grret his friend looked up at the clouds and they were twisting and moving very fast....sooo damn beautiful with the moon!!!! SWIM was almost drooling at the stimulation/visuals. The grass had this soft & gentle wave to it. The sky was around 3 or so colors but all drastic shades of the same color.
Trees twisted and fluxed as if by the wind, but evrything outside was dead silent. SWIM had the biggest smile of his life. Pure bliss, pure delight in his being!! And nearing the end of the night SWIM and his friend talked quite abit about science, philosophy and the like while lying on the ground looking at the MULTITUDE of very crisp/bright stars that canvassed the sky. And for one final idea, SWIM decided while lying on the ground to just dead stare at an area of the clouds right above the fluxing tree tops without flinching. The cloudsn'sky seemed to mesh in with the trees and everything else slightly visible in SWIMs periphial meshed along with it creating this ONE infinite energetic/electric state of being. All was one! :shock: All in all SWIM didnt get much sleep and the next day had reminents of mental stimulation with nearly no body ache from the highly stimulating orgasm that took over SWIM's body!
Enough rant. This night SWIM experienced had to be one of the most beautiful things ever. Hooray for LSD!!
VisualDistortion
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shoe said:69ron said:Touche Guevara said:I'd be very interested in an account of someone producing any usable amount of LSD from morning glories that did not have a professional chemistry background and access to equipment and materials far outside the scope of the average person.VisualDistortion said:Touche Guevara said:It's pretty much impossible.DMTripper said:How hard is it to make LSD by your self?
I have 2 blotters that are supposed to be 250mic but I just don't trust it to be real LSD so they're just sitting in my drawer. I'm not eating something that could be some shit RC. But maybe I have 2 real good blotters there and I will never know
People severly over estimate how hard it is to make a batch of LSD. It is not even close to impossible. It takes serious dedication and a willingness to learn and understand chemistry. The chemistry isn't even that complex. Takes some coin too. Not that hard. How much room you got to grow morning glory? Not the most efficient way to make a large batch but if it just for personal consumption it is suitable. The hardest part is sourcing the needed reagents.
Yeah, it's next to impossible for the average guy to make LSD. SWIM has many LSD synthesis procedures at hand and all of them are IMPOSSIBLE even for SWIM because of some of the chemicals you need to obtain. You need special connections or you won’t be able to make it PERIOD.
Next to impossible, yes. Next to.
Did you see on what.cd they obtained a copy of Microsoft COFEE? just this month! no one thought it would ever be uploaded, but there it was...
Yes, All the precursors are watched and scheduled, hydrazine is fuckhard to make. Same goes for diethylamide.
But a handful of people still make acid; how could they not! - Festival culture is positively booming and old heads and keen youngers are as hungry as ever for acid.
To quote a friend of mine, who once somehow managed to get a little brown dropper bottle, somehow, "They're like vultures, just *woosh*, slap, *bludaludaludalup* "
SWIM will confirm too, they are indeed exactly like vultures.
You know its legal to obtain for research? "Medical and scientific research with LSD in humans is permitted under the 1971 UN Convention."
Diethylamide is extremely easy to make, with high yeild to, from easily available over the counter things. Hydrazine is tough, but still made from easily available products. I mean it really is not that bad. Hardest part would be getting the tricky lab equipment. There are just some pieces a so-called "hobbyist" can't really explain needing.
VisualDistortion said:shoe said:69ron said:Touche Guevara said:I'd be very interested in an account of someone producing any usable amount of LSD from morning glories that did not have a professional chemistry background and access to equipment and materials far outside the scope of the average person.VisualDistortion said:Touche Guevara said:It's pretty much impossible.DMTripper said:How hard is it to make LSD by your self?
I have 2 blotters that are supposed to be 250mic but I just don't trust it to be real LSD so they're just sitting in my drawer. I'm not eating something that could be some shit RC. But maybe I have 2 real good blotters there and I will never know
People severly over estimate how hard it is to make a batch of LSD. It is not even close to impossible. It takes serious dedication and a willingness to learn and understand chemistry. The chemistry isn't even that complex. Takes some coin too. Not that hard. How much room you got to grow morning glory? Not the most efficient way to make a large batch but if it just for personal consumption it is suitable. The hardest part is sourcing the needed reagents.
Yeah, it's next to impossible for the average guy to make LSD. SWIM has many LSD synthesis procedures at hand and all of them are IMPOSSIBLE even for SWIM because of some of the chemicals you need to obtain. You need special connections or you won’t be able to make it PERIOD.
Next to impossible, yes. Next to.
Did you see on what.cd they obtained a copy of Microsoft COFEE? just this month! no one thought it would ever be uploaded, but there it was...
Yes, All the precursors are watched and scheduled, hydrazine is fuckhard to make. Same goes for diethylamide.
But a handful of people still make acid; how could they not! - Festival culture is positively booming and old heads and keen youngers are as hungry as ever for acid.
To quote a friend of mine, who once somehow managed to get a little brown dropper bottle, somehow, "They're like vultures, just *woosh*, slap, *bludaludaludalup* "
SWIM will confirm too, they are indeed exactly like vultures.
You know its legal to obtain for research? "Medical and scientific research with LSD in humans is permitted under the 1971 UN Convention."
Diethylamide is extremely easy to make, with high yeild to, from easily available over the counter things. Hydrazine is tough, but still made from easily available products. I mean it really is not that bad. Hardest part would be getting the tricky lab equipment. There are just some pieces a so-called "hobbyist" can't really explain needing.
Yeah, sorry. I've learned about that since writing that post. However, some things are just impossible to obtain. Like, Sulphur Trioxide for example, SO3. If it was more easilly available, then it'd be a simple two step reaction, LSA to LSD. Just prepare the mixed anhydride and then react with a nitrogenous base.
mogascreeta
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i only had the opportunity to do lsd once. but that was this past summer (2009) in liquid form. the guy sold it to my buddy who worked with the guy. 300 mics for $5. from what i understand it was very clean stuf, not some RC. it was the first time i used any psychedelic and i have not looked back since. that connection was lost soon after that experience, now i regret not trying it earlier as i had that connection almost a full year before i decided to try it. the guy had a full vial of it and dripped it on the paper right then and there. im 99% sure that guy is still living at the same place and still keeps a vial of acid, its just some conflict formed between him and my buddy so the connection is gone. btw this was in Orlando, FL.
trancepants
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Agreed. It IS out there. People enjoy it far too much to let it slip away. For SWIM, it is rather easy to obtain IF it is in fact in town. Very rare substance, and it goes quick once people realize that it is legit. East coast, large cities.69ron said:
Ayawasqero
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Can you get proper LSD anywhere?
thepureskunk
Rising Star
Its very cool that some people are still getting LSD
I still have my single piece of blotter and am saving it for Reading festival later in the year...i really, really hope its the real deal!! There is just no-way i know of that you can actually test it out first...shame.
Peace!!
I still have my single piece of blotter and am saving it for Reading festival later in the year...i really, really hope its the real deal!! There is just no-way i know of that you can actually test it out first...shame.
Peace!!
Sorry to be off topic but I felt it must be addressed:
Although I agree that violence gets one no where productive. How can you (ron) say that drugs being illegal doesn't harm people? Tell that to over 50% of the US prison population, and their families and children. Or the overdose victims and their families. Or all the people whom have contracted hepititis? or HIV? Or the little girl who got shot by a stray bullet in a drug related shooting. Or the guy who lost his job because he smoked marijuana on the weekend or ......the police officer who was corrupted buy drug money (fuck him anyway though!)... but the people in his jurisdiction who counted on him... Plenty are harmed by drugs being illegal more than if the drugs were legal themselves. Crime is up, prison population is up, overdose rates are up, drug related diseases are up, .... all directly attributable to prohibition.... as prior to prohibition these things were at a acceptable rate. Prohibition amplifies the dangers of drugs and creates new ones.
The point is though, that violence is not effective. It rarely has been (although there are times it is necessary). True change comes about through change in thought and ideas. People need to be made aware of the damage that drug prohibition does. How it is worse for society than all the illegal drugs combined. Many great revolutions have been non-violent, it sends a powerful message in its self.
On the LSD:
It does seem to be coming around again. I remember around 2000 around the Pickard bust how it just dried up. But there does seem to be some L around occasionally so I am told. Festivals tend to be BS, I have seen to many rip offs to ever trust someone sat a festival. It is a shame (even from the old guys ). It is usually just paper. But I guess it depends where you are in what country as Im sure there is legit L.
Although I agree that violence gets one no where productive. How can you (ron) say that drugs being illegal doesn't harm people? Tell that to over 50% of the US prison population, and their families and children. Or the overdose victims and their families. Or all the people whom have contracted hepititis? or HIV? Or the little girl who got shot by a stray bullet in a drug related shooting. Or the guy who lost his job because he smoked marijuana on the weekend or ......the police officer who was corrupted buy drug money (fuck him anyway though!)... but the people in his jurisdiction who counted on him... Plenty are harmed by drugs being illegal more than if the drugs were legal themselves. Crime is up, prison population is up, overdose rates are up, drug related diseases are up, .... all directly attributable to prohibition.... as prior to prohibition these things were at a acceptable rate. Prohibition amplifies the dangers of drugs and creates new ones.
The point is though, that violence is not effective. It rarely has been (although there are times it is necessary). True change comes about through change in thought and ideas. People need to be made aware of the damage that drug prohibition does. How it is worse for society than all the illegal drugs combined. Many great revolutions have been non-violent, it sends a powerful message in its self.
On the LSD:
It does seem to be coming around again. I remember around 2000 around the Pickard bust how it just dried up. But there does seem to be some L around occasionally so I am told. Festivals tend to be BS, I have seen to many rip offs to ever trust someone sat a festival. It is a shame (even from the old guys
). It is usually just paper. But I guess it depends where you are in what country as Im sure there is legit L.