cane toad

[vixintrex]

can you smoke cane toad venom?

 

[Voidmatrix]

can you smoke cane toad venom?

Hey there.

I'm pretty tired and a little out of it so have not read this paper or this one but seem like they may have potential answers to your question.

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[BobDobbs]

Pure speculation here... But I'd be very interested to investigate the gland secretions of a hybrid of Bufo alvarius and Bufo marinus...

 

[downwardsfromzero]

Pure speculation here... But I'd be very interested to investigate the gland secretions of a hybrid of Bufo alvarius and Bufo marinus...

B. alvarius is now known as Incillius alvarius, while B. marinus has been transferred to Rhinella marina. I don't know if that has any impact on the likelihood of breeding success when attempting to hybridize these toads, or if it's merely the re-labelling of the pages of the stamp album.

This may also be worth considering:

Since 2016, cane toad populations native to Mesoamerica and northwestern South America are sometimes considered to be a separate species, Rhinella horribilis.

But actually I know next to nothing about toads, even less about breeding them.

But cane toad venom? It does contain bufotenine but the concentration is too low to make it viable as an entheogen without further processing.

One might also consider information such as:

Extracts of toad venom, containing bufotenin and other bioactive compounds, have been used in some traditional medicines such as ch’an su (probably derived from Bufo gargarizans), which has been used medicinally for centuries in China.

My inference w.r.t. the OP is that cane toads as an invasive species outside of their native range could 'more justifiably' be harassed for their venom than a more threatened species such as Incillius alvarius. Whether it would be worthwhile to do so is another matter entirely. It's up to the person concerned to examine the literature regarding bufotenine concentration of cane toad vanom.

 

[PsillyPsimon]

You *can* smoke cane toad venom, but it is unlikely you'll be able to do it twice. It has a totally different toxin profile compared to bufo alvarius.