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Cannabis: Questions Regarding Tolerance and Wasting

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JohnIce2

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Hello Nexus! It has been a while since I posted (I think... Hard to keep a since of time sometimes).

Here is some background info before I ask my questions:

So I have been smoking Cannabis for about 7 months straight now (Every day I could and had access to it). I even ordered Pure MYRCENE for my vape which has noticably changed the effects of my Cannabis.
I typically smoke out of a One hitter as my prefered method. I also own a One hitter type device that I made that has a bowl that gets about 4-8 decent hits when filled (like sometimes, I can't even finish it theirs so much). I also have a Spoon pipe that has a bowl about a CM in diameter and is half sphere-ed (meaning a bowl shape) down to about .7-.85 of a CM.
I usually smoke strains that are at least a 3.9 on Leafy. Most of them are in the 4.3-4.5 range. Where I live, it is hard to find what is called "Reggie" or "Cheap-Ditch-Weed-at-90-a-OZ".
I have Dabbed (I personally prefer natural buds which have always gotten ME More fucked up, and in a cheaper, less painful way) and also combined Wax (as well with normal green) with psychedelics like Morning Glory seeds, Chaliponga extract (that was only potent enough to give you a added effect to the weed that is a indescribable feeling/feelings and mental state), and Syrian Rue.
My typical routine for smoking is 1-5 (at most, not likely) one hits for the morning, then "re-Highing" with more one hits when I feel a comedown and still have access to my requirement (as in not at work or busy).

So recently I have been noticing some oddities in my smoking, My tolerance seems to be unpredictable in that I will smoke sometimes and not feel alot, and say a few hours after that, try again (with the same strain, cause I only get one at a time) and get blasted. I have noticed the same amount of bud, getting me higher than usual without a break from normal routine. I have noticed Less bud getting me higher (as in a pinch or two in a one hitter comparing to a full bowl smoked out of my glass spoon pipe). I do have what I believe to be HPPD seeing as how I can smoke and trip TFO without having any Phycs in my system at all, and sometimes just bud will get me farther than my typical phycs.

Here are my questions:

Is their a possibility of a Reverse Tolerance with Cannabis? If so, what does that mean in terms to its effects compared to average effects?

Do bigger pipes not get me as high because of how much they waste compared to one that almost instantly cashes all of the green and lets the least amount of smoke escape from the bowl side?

How can I get higher off of less if I smoke my typical way and don't have enough time in between to really let tolerance drop? Could this be related to my almost constant (cause I mix it with ALOT of my vape flavors) use of Myrcene?

Thank You for your replies! and if you have any questions for me feel free to ask!
 
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Go easy on the myrcene. I've got some too and too much of that combined with cannabis will knock you out, and its half life in the body is much longer than THC (I think around 8 hours). I wouldn't vape more than 1 drop per day regularly, even that is a bit much, the stuffy is super potent, you only need a tiny bit. You might try getting some other terpenes (e.g. pinene, eucalyptol, limonene) that have other more uplifting modulating effects.
 
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:shock: A Drop a Day... I've been doing like.... A hell of alot then.
And yeah haha you are right! It can knock ya out!
I tried some orange oil with the myrcene and it wasn't to bad.
Have you felt any effects from the Myrcene alone?
Is their any known overdose ammount for it in humans? Cause I have only been able to find studies with pure stuff done on rats. Lol did I just get the wrong results or is their actually no info (as far as you've seen or heard) on pure myrcene in humans?
 
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I don't have any solid evidence for you but I will share what personal experience I have.

I am an avid dabber. Because of this my tolerance is usually really high and a lot of times flower or buds won't have any effect. Now when I travel and am trying to save as much money as possible I stop this routine.

One hitters have seemed to be the best way to conserve weed yet stay as high as possible. There also is a very noticable difference in how much it effects you based on how long you hold the hit in; the longer the better. Lastly i have felt like allowing yourself to fully sober to baseline befoere smmoking again will help the second time be as effective. I found if I smoke while im still buzzed the effects are not nearly as noticeable.

Hope this was helpful to someone! And keep in mind the best way to get higher/ have a lower tolerance is simply a tolerance break. A week or even a few days can have a big impact. :)
 
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I've noticed that often a smaller dose can have a far more intense effect than a larger dose...

I'm not sure what this is, I don't think it's reverse tolerance, at least not in the traditional sense...

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Below is a rant regarding my views on getting high with cannabis, feel free to skip over it, it's nit very important to the topic at hand


I think if your goal is to get "high" the practice may not be all that beneficial, but that's just me...I have defined images of use and abuse...

I use cannabis daily, but it's for medical reasons involving severe chronic nausea and appitite, it also aides me psychologically.

My friends who use for "recreational" reasons also seem to have abandoned this whole "getting high" concept, for an "incorporation into normal daily life" concept.

Cannabis makes you happy, calm, healthy, happy and inspired, it relieves anger and stress, it aides with sleep, and has a mass of other beneficial uses. So many people use it for so much more than its image would suggest.

It's something that we use because it makes life that much easier, and carries many benefits to the user, however it's never a "party" type thing, it's more like how people use coffee, we are constantly using it, but nobody makes a big deal about it, it's not a wild and crazy time and we are not trying to get "wasted"...

Sorry, I just personally this image of cannabis as a party drug is detrimental. It makes it near impossible for daily users, who can smoke daily and still function at 100%, to be taken seriously, it creates a public image of an "illegal drug" where people are trying to get as "messed up" as possible and are doing for hedonistic reasons...

Sorry, I did not mean to unload my criticisms of cannabis use and it's perceptions, I just think as soon as we can move on from this party image or illegal drug image, the sooner cannabis will be excepted as a normal part of daily life, for those who choose to use it.

The way I see it is, sometimes it has more intense of an effect than others, when it's not as intense, don't worry.


-eg
 
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Cool replies guys!

And I agree with you almost to point gnosis...
Some people will just never understand that while cannabis is often found at parties, Alcohol is usually more common (in my experiences) and it can kill you. Saying that Marijuana is a "Party Drug" is like saying that my kitchen table is a "Party Table" because it happens to be in my kitchen while theirs a party going on.

On a bit of a broader note:
I have noticed that those who have used substances (particularly Phycs for myself) have a better understanding of the effects than those who don't (who would've though). Therefore, where the hell do some of these people get the idea that they know what their talkin about. Everything comes from the Earth. The natural states of ALL THE DRUGS WE USE have more than likely been used by Humanity and civilizations since their effects were discovered.

Just cause someone smokes weed, eats seeds, drinks tea just to throw it up later, and so many others doesn't make them any different or "Bad"... in fact, it may just make them (US) eyeoppened to what is actually happening around us rather than just living to work, make money, sleep, bang, eat, drink, and die. They allow us to see reality for what it is and love and care for the world and everything in it on a level that sober people, and those not experienced, just wouldn't understand.

If you ask me... I don't think we would keep murdering each other if we stopped to take a toke.
(Funny fact the US government made a synthetic form of THC that was to be used to incapacitate enemy troops, it never made it to the feild cause of the ATOM BOMB: DMHP is what its chemical name is)

Sorry for the Rant! Gnosis just brought up a topic that I feel strongly about also
 
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JohnIce2 said:
Cool replies guys!

And I agree with you almost to point gnosis...
Some people will just never understand that while cannabis is often found at parties, Alcohol is usually more common (in my experiences) and it can kill you. Saying that Marijuana is a "Party Drug" is like saying that my kitchen table is a "Party Table" because it happens to be in my kitchen while theirs a party going on.

On a bit of a broader note:
I have noticed that those who have used substances (particularly Phycs for myself) have a better understanding of the effects than those who don't (who would've though). Therefore, where the hell do some of these people get the idea that they know what their talkin about. Everything comes from the Earth. The natural states of ALL THE DRUGS WE USE have more than likely been used by Humanity and civilizations since their effects were discovered.

Just cause someone smokes weed, eats seeds, drinks tea just to throw it up later, and so many others doesn't make them any different or "Bad"... in fact, it may just make them (US) eyeoppened to what is actually happening around us rather than just living to work, make money, sleep, bang, eat, drink, and die. They allow us to see reality for what it is and love and care for the world and everything in it on a level that sober people, and those not experienced, just wouldn't understand.

If you ask me... I don't think we would keep murdering each other if we stopped to take a toke.
(Funny fact the US government made a synthetic form of THC that was to be used to incapacitate enemy troops, it never made it to the feild cause of the ATOM BOMB: DMHP is what its chemical name is)

Sorry for the Rant! Gnosis just brought up a topic that I feel strongly about also
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I suppose I can understand the "party" use of cannabis (though I don't approve), I just feel that image should be the exception, not the rule.

I use cannabis daily, but if you asked anybody who knows me they will tell you I never "act" high, in fact if they did not know that I smoke daily, they would never even be able to tell... it does not alter the way I behave, and it does not impair me, I'm actually able to function better WITH the cannabis, and this "party drug" image is detrimental to those like myself, people think "it's an excuse to party", rather than a medication or an entheogen.

I really dislike the illegal image of cannabis, as well as the stereotypical "stoner", if you watch the movie "half-baked" you will see a perfect example of the behavior I'm referring to, these people "make a big deal" about cannabis, they have nonsense rituals (taking shoes off to smoke, etc...), They treat it like a drug. Then they promote giving cannabis to their pets (I can't stand when people do this), everything about the way the act towards cannabis and treat it is the type of behavior which I think is destroying the public view of actual cannabis users...

I think this attitude of "getting wasted" and hedonistic substance abuse will eventually separate from cannabis.

For me cannabis is a sacrament. It's an entheogen and a medicine, it makes you healthy, holy, happy, calm, peaceful, inspired, stress-free, and relaxed. It promotes mindstates associated with spiritual discipline and the sacred, and it improves intelect, it also heals the body...

...cannabis has been an entheogen for far longer than its been a "drug", I think this "drug" image and culture of cannabis abuse surrounding it, is a product of the drug war, and as cannabis becomes legal, and as cannabis users mature, these behaviors and this image will fade out.

Again, I know many people who don't particularly see cannabis as spiritual, and who are not treating any ailments, but these people still use in a manner that is the antithesis of "party use", again, for them, it just makes life easier, it relieves stress and boredom, and creates a positive mindstate, it's helping these people get through the day, it's helping them function better, not impairing them, or "messing them up", they are not trying to get "loaded", they are trying to get by.

-eg
 
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Wow anne! That Bagfish method seems awesome and extreme haha.
and Gnosis, again I feel you. I would probably categorize myself in the last statement of yours about those without legit medical uses for their cannabis, but use to make their daily lives easier and less stressful.
 
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