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I think its sort of closed minded, or maybe blindly rationalistic, to think people are "going against the facts of science" just because they believe you can perceive more directly the energy that is present in the body through focus. The brain effects the body. I've had hundreds of things happen to me that science cannot currently account for as it stands now, i don't believe its all true to the way i interpreted them, but i know many others have these experiences as well..especially here! Besides science is just our best method for modeling the world in a way that we can understand, it isn't the world itself and currently can't explained tons of the unusual experiences people report here daily, around the world daily.. Sure maybe its mass hallucination, or just fanciful mind masterbation. I suspect people here are so sure of this energy since its presence becomes blatantly obvious on entheogens. You can call them chakras or whatever you wish it doesn't matter. At first I never meditated on the places where chakras are, i just sat in deep thought or attempted to quiet my mind and listen to my body and did a sort of pranayama, which is simply talking full breathes. Eventually you start reaching the bliss++ states and it feels as though there is huge hearts everywhere in your body, in your palms, along the torso..

Phlux-glad your feeling better man!
 
I think its sort of closed minded, or maybe blindly rationalistic, to think people are "going against the facts of science" just because they believe you can perceive more directly the energy that is present in the body through focus.
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Of course some people are more aware of things going on in their body then others. There is no doubt about this and theres nothing wrong with claiming such a thing. But its certainly not close minded to point out that something like spinning wheels of energy located usually near important organs is not a legit explanation for human physiology. Its not at all in any sense. Chakras are not real plain and simple. The only real part about them is that at least the people recognized that areas where chakras were thought to be are often areas where important organs and connections between them are located. Thats all. The rest is completely wrong.

Also you should realize that there is an entire industry that preys on manipulating peoples lack of knowledge about their own body. Its a multi billion dollar industry built on promoting and sustaining lies and misinformation and pretending its medicine. If you call it close minded to oppose that and try to clear up the confusion then you really are a fool. No offense intended but seriously I don't think many of you are aware of the problems these kinds of lies and misinformation about medicine is causing.

You can call them chakras or whatever you wish it doesn't matter.
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It does matter when you are talking about human health and medicine.

At first I never meditated on the places where chakras are, i just sat in deep thought or attempted to quiet my mind and listen to my body and did a sort of pranayama, which is simply talking full breathes. Eventually you start reaching the bliss++ states and it feels as though there is huge hearts everywhere in your body, in your palms, along the torso..
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All this is explainable by modern understanding of human physiology. You and most people here just don't know shit about human physiology so you don't see how it can be explained. I am sorry I try to be nice about it and understand that most people have almost zero biology education these days but its getting very frustrating trying to explain anything to anyone here anymore.

I always get attacked for being close minded when I am the one telling the truth. You are the ones spreading bullshit like its the plague.
 
burnt said:
I always get attacked for being close minded when I am the one telling the truth. You are the ones spreading bullshit like its the plague.
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truth is subjective. rational logic conclusions about reality can be the truth, but mostly can't be aplied to every individual.
You think you are smarter by relying to science..
Science should not be a cage for reality. It should be only a tool.

How do you think is it possible, burnt, that there are SOOO many people who experience these spiritual experiences?
Are they just all dump irrational human beings? Somehow tricked into believing some bullsh*t?

That is what you think, isn't it?

Almost any spiritual seeker experiences his energy, chakras etc...

Maybe you should start seeking!

You have to realize that science doesn't determine your life.
100 years ago people would have sent you to the madhouse for some modern scientific results.
You know that.
And modern biophysics is claiming some very interesting things about DNA. It basically sais, that that genes are only the library and the one who choses the genes must be something else. Any cell works together with any other and can communicate with any other cell at any given moment. It is YOU who decides which genetic code is to be executed.
That's the reason why some people get cancer while others don't.
 
"That's the reason why some people get cancer while others don't."

haha ok thats just so far out of context..making statements like just seem rediculous man...like uhhhh..prove it or something..where did you pull that out of?
 
fractal enchantment said:
"That's the reason why some people get cancer while others don't."

haha ok thats just so far out of context..making statements like just seem rediculous man...like uhhhh..prove it or something..where did you pull that out of?
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Don't nail me on one statement. Cancer is not a unhealable desease! It has something to do with your understanding about yourself and your mental constitution!
Another thing is nutrition.
Many healing processes can be started trough right nutrition! There are hundreds of alternative methods to thread this desease.

And, i can not prove it, i just know that the war on cancer has been won 50 years ago. And modern health industry just doesn't want to let people know it. So they can sell them their useless meds to make huge profits.
Believe what you want.
Get information, plenty of it out there.

But this seems such an emotional topic for some guys in the forum, i won't bring it up again.
It wasn't my intend to start this offtopic discussion here, but what can I do.. if I don't answer im not authentic, if I answer I start offtopic discussion ...

anyway

Let's go back to the thread's topic!
 
You are making some very unsubstantiated claims that, first of all are disrespectful to those very good people that anyways had cancer, or for children cancer and so on, as well as doesnt explain animal cancer. Also if what you are saying is really true that there is a known cure, it means the possible saving of millions of lives and you ask fractal to 'get the information', wow I must say you have a quite strange attitude.

Show your cards if its really true, where is the source..? Otherwise its just as valid as some random person that says they are god or that they are in contact with the aliens or that they are cyborgs sent from the future.


and on another note, I think what creates 'emotional' responses is how you word yourself. Sometimes it might come across as arrogant, and the fact that you dont back up your claims but just act all sure about yourself increases the more energetic responses.

Be participative, but understand that a talk is not a one-way process, its two-way (or multi-way here).. You have to think what is the message you are wanting to pass and have to be open to hear what the other says. Try to reflect about if when you write, it is coming from the ego, or if you are really trying to make your post of benefit to others

So when you are in a forum that holds dearly to participative action, to sharing of information, to personal growth, to health and so on, and you post as you have posted, im sure you can understand why it stands out and doesnt make a lot of people happy. Please rethink a bit.
 
Mr_DMT said:
Let's go back to the thread's topic!
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Not so fast Mr DMT!
Mr_DMT said:
Cancer is not a unhealable desease! It has something to do with your understanding about yourself and your mental constitution!
Another thing is nutrition.
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Then why are you sitting on your ass posting on some forum when you have the key to save millions of lives?

Mr_DMT said:
And, i can not prove it
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oh... that's a shame.


Mr_DMT said:
i just know that the war on cancer has been won 50 years ago.
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Apparently you don't

Mr_DMT said:
Get information, plenty of it out there.
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I'm sorry, but I can't find it. Neither can you as you have admitted you can't prove it.

Do you mean stuff like this?:


Ehm... what ARE you?
 
"Don't nail me on one statement. Cancer is not a unhealable desease!"

What the hell does that have to do with it?? Weather its treatable or not has nothing to do with what you said...if you cant handle the responces than dont post...

your responce to my post isnt relevant to my responce to what you said..its like you just went off on some other tangent as if it relates to what you said..
 
endlessness said:
You are making some very unsubstantiated claims that, first of all are disrespectful to those very good people
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I'm not saying that some people deserve to have cancer! There can be various other energetical reasons for that illness.
And that's not the point anyway.

I can show you some literature:
Cancer: Why We're Still Dying to Know the Truth
World without cancer
Cancer Cure
Anticancer


People rely on doctors and "science" and forget that this is an industry like any other bussiness!

I just don't understand why i always get flamed for my claims.
Ok they are not very documented, but you could ask if you think some claims aren't reasonable to you. I'll try to explain my view of reality!
 
Mr_DMT said:
I can show you some literature:
Cancer: Why We're Still Dying to Know the Truth


People rely on doctors and "science" and forget that this is an industry like any other bussiness!
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i like some of the reviews of this book for example:

I am very sorry but the ground breaking "theories" given in this book are nothing but well established facts padded with misleading and potentially harmful examples. Readers should be very careful when studies from the 1950s are used to sell a theory. If they had worked we'd be using them in the clinics now.
If you want to reduce your risk of cancer the answers are well known: eat more vegetables, don't smoke, limit fat, red meat and alcohol. You want to help yourself then get to know your body, and if there are changes you can't explain, consult your physician immediately. You should also go for regular screening where it's offered.
I'm afraid there is no magical solution but those who treat and research cancer are working very hard to improve the situation.
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I'm afraid this is the over hyped tabloid school of science - give half a fact and dress it brightly then make it dance. Of course most people in the profession would rather prevent cancer - in the NHS in the UK its not something that people make money out of treating. The drug companies do push their own agenda, that much is true, but there is no big conspiracy and no magic cure. There are well known things you can do to reduce your risk of cancer but no magic elixir. Don't waste your money.
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of course living healthy diminishes a lot of cancer risk, everybody knows that, but this is FAR from calling it a cure or explanation for why cancer exists..
 
"And modern biophysics is claiming some very interesting things about DNA. It basically sais, that that genes are only the library and the one who choses the genes must be something else. Any cell works together with any other and can communicate with any other cell at any given moment. It is YOU who decides which genetic code is to be executed.
That's the reason why some people get cancer while others don't."


Thats's what you said..you said that some people get cancer while others dont because "genes are only the library and the one who choses the genes must be something else. Any cell works together with any other and can communicate with any other cell at any given moment. It is YOU who decides which genetic code is to be executed."..

Prove it that it is ME that decides which genetic code is to be executed...and that that is why some people get cancer and others dont..dont come back with some other responce about cancer cures, avoiding the reality of what you really said.
 
I know people who had cancer and beat it. Check out the other books! There are newer ones.
Just by quoting one single bad review on ONE book :)
Just check out the other books.
 
fractal enchantment said:
Thats's what you said..you said that some people get cancer while others dont because "genes are only the library and the one who choses the genes must be something else. Any cell works together with any other and can communicate with any other cell at any given moment. It is YOU who decides which genetic code is to be executed."..

Prove it that it is ME that decides which genetic code is to be executed...and that that is why some people get cancer and others dont..dont come back with some other responce about cancer cures, avoiding the reality of what you really said.
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If you compare DNA of a monky with your DNA you won't find much difference. Therefore there has to be some kind of "chooser" who selects the right information from the DNA!

I believe that we are more than our bodies. I think we consist of an energy body, a body and a soul.

I believe we are the creators of our life and our life experience!
Therefore we create all bliss and all non-bliss by ourselves.

You all know these cases were doctors said the patient will die in short time and suddenly the patient recovers completely. How you want to explain that trough rational and medical terms?
It can only be explained trough this model i've shown above.
 
What model is that that you showed?

I dont care to argue about cancer cures..I already have own opinions about that..honestly..I study this stuff at school..

I want to know how you KNOW that someone chooses their genetic coding and somehow chooses cancer? I dont think that you do know that...the food we eat is poisoned...there are toxins all throughout the environment...sure eating healthy and whatnot is the best medicine and the best prevention..but thats not really what you origionally said..
 
fractal enchantment said:
What model is that that you showed?
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replace model with ideas and you get the point.
You have the freedom to choose wheater to be healthy or sick, happy or unhappy, etc etc.
thats my idea of life!
 
thats not what you said though!

You said that we choose our genetic code..basically that I can choose to be a giraff if I want to intead of a human, and that is why some people get cancer..
 
I don't know why you argue so much on this. I and the vast majority of people here agree with you fractal, burnt etc. but MrDMT is entitled to his opinion, I wouldn't bother taking it on yourself to prove him wrong. He won't listen anyway. Let's keep the peace :)
 
fractal enchantment said:
thats not what you said though!

You said that we choose our genetic code..basically that I can choose to be a giraff if I want to intead of a human, and that is why some people get cancer..
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Words can be understood in many ways. If you understand something like what you stated above.. seriously :D
ahahhahahaha
noooooo i didn't mean you can choose to be a dog or whatever.
But i certainly can say, that you can avoid certain illnesses by being "healty", healthy in mind, body and soul!
And the most important thing is to be positive!

The whole idea about "bad genetics" causing illness is a victim-oriented explanation.
You are the creator of your life, not the victim of genetics!
 
See now I know that you dont know that you are talking about...

Do you understand how a genome works?....all DNA is the same...the ways it expresses itself is what makes a human or a dog..and changing that expression somehow to got or not get cancer is the same as changing from a human to dog..which I am not saying is not possible..it very well may be..but I dont think you have proof of that..or that you understand this stuff..


"The whole idea about "bad genetics" causing illness is a victim-oriented explanation."

Another ignorant misinformed statement..so how then do you describe the difference in health between pure bred dogs and muts? Pure breds always have more health problems..becasue they dont have as wide a range of genetic traits as muts..so muts have "better genetics" that make them immune to more diseases and are better able to adapt..
 
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