Changa Question

[Riproarious]

Hey all,

SWIM is considering making some changa.
They are taking SSRIs and obviously dont want to create a lethal mix..
Which leaves/herbs would be safest?
Also tastiest and euphoric? ^_^

Yes, they have read many changa threads..

Thanks!

 

[hyperspacing]

Sorry I read that wrong.
Only take caapi when off of ssri meds. The rest is fine.

Well for a starter kit I recomend ordering the following:

Caapi leaf (you can make 10x eventually) contains maoi
Pau d'arco (I love this the most)
Mullein
Calea
Blue lily

those are my main building blocks for changa blends. The pau/mullein can usually be picked up from health food or vitamin stores sold as tea. Good luck and let us know how it goes!!

 

[DoingKermit]

What you want to make is enhanced leaf, as changa is made with a MAOI containing plant such as caapi. You do not want to mix SSRI's with any kind of MAOI, as it may cause serotonin syndrome. So i would stick to using herbs like mullein and blue lotus. Hope that helps.

 

[Bill Cipher]

Do not stop taking doctor prescribed medications in order to accomodate your journeying. If after speaking with your doctor you decide to discontinue, you are probably going to want to wait several weeks before taking any MAOI's whatsoever.

 

[hyperspacing]

I have a friend who takes prozac for depression/mood swings. She went 2 days without taking it before trying some maoi containing changa. She had no apparent issues and I'm happy to say is off prozac!! She smokes changa about once or twice a week and says she hasn't had any problems with her depression. This could be placebo or a fluke but its been almost 3 months. Not saying this will work for you but something to take into consideration.

2 days was sufficient for her med/dosage. This may not be safe for all ssri's/dosages. Diffrent meds stay in your system for diffrent amounts of time. Always exercise caution.

 

[Strange Gray Static Mayan Pattern]

Blue lotus isn't safe either.

 

[hyperspacing]

Blue lotus isn't safe either.

Why isn't blue lotus safe? it isn't an maoi. I use it in my blends for friends that take ssri's. They are all alive and kicking. :d

 

[gratefulfloyd]

I agree, Blue Lotus is definitely safe, it has no MAOI properties in it

 

[Riproarious]

Thanks for all the replies!
SWIM will be ordering many herbs online shortly.
They may try mint short-term - is it nice?
They have blue lotus resin but they doubt that will work..

 

[gammagore]

Blue lotus isn't safe either.

Why isn't blue lotus safe? it isn't an maoi. I use it in my blends for friends that take ssri's. They are all alive and kicking. :d

Ye, why would you say that? Please do share some info on why Blue Lotus isnt safe?

Riproarious, alot of members like mint, its very soothing, although I have experinced nausea from it.

When making a blend, start low, just enough for a few blastoffs. If you are happy with it, then make MORE

 

[hyperspacing]

They have blue lotus resin but they doubt that will work..

Try dissolving a little in ipa or acetone. If it dissolves you can mix it in with your blend.

 

[Riproarious]

Is isopropyl alcohol ok to use? - I think I saw it somewhere. :?

 

[hyperspacing]

Is isopropyl alcohol ok to use? - I think I saw it somewhere. :?

Ya ipa is isopropyl alcohol. 91% is good 99% is better :d