Ciao.

[ABe©eDarian]

 

[ABe©eDarian]

Extraction.
What you’re asking.
It’s an individual reaction.
The visuals can be a distraction
from the action
and your own light flashing
from the dark
where you park
and gain your brain’s traction.
Then if you can’t blast in with a spark
and start the everlasting,
how can even part of it happen?
Alright, now even the white got blackened.
And even with the rapping something’s lacking.
What is that then?

 

[ABe©eDarian]

Leon (‘CC’)
an eclipse

@purrpussly:matrix.org
Just looking for interesting ideas
(@purrpussly:matrix.org) left the room

ABe©eDarian
Damn, she left the room right before the interesting ideas may have started flowing.

Mental patients is a virtue.

Leon (‘CC’)

ABe©eDarian
mental patients is a virtue

thee late gratification

ABe©eDarian
I believe in things like spiritual (both benevolent & malevolent) entities (both with and without bodies).
Also, pivoting around the precipices of psychicness/esp/clairvoyance... and schizophrenia etc.
In a lot of society it can be really hard to get anything but the push of bad stigma of one while meant for the other.
So we try not to crack our walnuts that we have inside the skulls.
It is challenging.

Leon (‘CC’)
Started listening to a conversation with the chap behind IFS - Internal Family Systems.
Find it quite surprising how what used to be multiple personality disorder now somehow morphed into a perfectly reasonable therapeutic modality

ABe©eDarian
I do telehealth therapy a few times a month, but she'd only be employed for small talk if I didn't do the work.
But I like her.

 

[ABe©eDarian]

Hey look, it's paradise.

 

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[ABe©eDarian]

Response-ability & par-rents of k,IDs. The kID$ is a toughy.
Tis the sea, Son. Pump-kin spice

.
What is there to get deep-rest about?
Crazy.
C R A-Z, Y?
See our A->Z? Why?
& ?

 

[rkba]

C R A-Z, Y?
See our A->Z? Why?

Nice!

 

[ABe©eDarian]

 

[ABe©eDarian]

Looks like ears to me.

 

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[ABe©eDarian]

That's all she wrote.

 

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[rkba]

 

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What it is.

 

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Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:54:22 - TheBigPig: well there's a jewish saying "all is for the good"
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:54:54 - TheBigPig: so there's no evil, only tragedy... Like, God kills our babies, and even though we know they go to heaven, he does it to show us how he feels when we corrupt our souls, cus we're his children
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:55:28 - TheBigPig: we're actually basically all existing with a forcefield around us, that's why God protects Moshe, Noah, etc, with divine intervention
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:55:38 - TheBigPig: hardens Faro's heart too
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:55:47 - TheBigPig: Sometimes also God gets angry
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:56:17 - TheBigPig: that parts complex idk it
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:56:39 - TheBigPig: this isn't an issue in judaism
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:58:08 - TheBigPig: I think it might be a result of a misunderstanding of the book of Job, cus actually, the talmud explains that Job deserved all that stuff, also Abraham deserved binding of Isaac, cus he refused to feed a beggar
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:58:47 - TheBigPig: The debate over evil simply doesn't exist in Judaism, since the fundamental pillar of Judaism is, "all is for the good" so it's about seeing why God does it, not judging his actions...
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:59:10 - TheBigPig: likewise, that's why it's a complex moral topic "to be or not to be"
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 20:59:32 - TheBigPig: "to be or not to be" is a question in judaism
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 21:00:40 - TheBigPig: the answer is to be, Because God is, but, the real reason behind it takes a lot of secret Kabbala, since it's the crux...
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 21:01:03 - TheBigPig: afterall, that is the entire question of free will
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 21:07:40 - TheBigPig: the axioms of judaism are very simple, but the results of them are very complex, similar to natural law itself, where you have some set of laws, gravity, electromagnetism, spacetime, etc, but the result is very complex
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 21:08:22 - TheBigPig: so the torah is the axiom in judaism, and we are the result of the torah, or something like that, maybe not exactly that
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 22:10:52 - TheBigPig: death is actually a good thing in judaism. It's mercy to the wicked, and salvation to the righteous
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 22:11:10 - TheBigPig: soul death is bad tho
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 22:32:48 - TheBigPig: when i don't feel great, i meditate by lying in bed in the dark and it cures it
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 22:32:58 - TheBigPig: that is, spiritually i don't feel great
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 22:33:11 - TheBigPig: isaac did it in genesis, asichah in the field
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 22:33:58 - TheBigPig: David does it in psalms "and on your wonders I will meditate (asichah)' asichah means meditate, or muse, and it's a rare word in the torah, hence why it's so notable that Isaac did it, as well as David
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 22:34:33 - TheBigPig: those 2 I think were the only ones who meditated in the Torah,
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 22:34:43 - TheBigPig: or i mean tanach
Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 23:04:21 - clover: Interesting. Thx for sharing
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 03:23:26 - nanachi ️: The thing is, only way for me to really agree is if you state that everything is our suffering. That at least makes sense since its in (our) consciousness.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 03:35:20 - nanachi ️: All in all God as a vague authority figure/entity described by hodgepodge of reedited books through centuries of analogies is not the best way to have a coherent feeling idea about non-dualism.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 03:57:35 - nanachi ️: I no longer make difference between fiction and holy text because art is also meant to center around non-dualism/God.

So in that regard I think the Old Testament, basically the Jesus prequel, is alright but aesthetically has serious competition.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 03:58:01 - nanachi ️: Lord Of The Rings vs Bible is a serious tossup
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:26:12 - TheBigPig: nooo
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:26:53 - TheBigPig: idk wut ur trying to say here
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:29:53 - nanachi ️: That when you say someone is suffering, that is and can only be in your mind, so it is technically always your suffering.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:32:53 - TheBigPig: ok i still dont know what you're saying. I can't decipher the grammar...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:37:37 - zero: "Pseudo-religion, pseudo-philosophy, pseudo-science and pseudo-art are practically all that we know."

- ouspensky
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:37:39 - nanachi ️: You got a brain/mind. Everything you experience happens in there. So when you see suffering, that happens within your mind.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:39:47 - TheBigPig: well that's just a fact
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:41:08 - nanachi ️: Sorry I meant to answer to this, my client bugged out lol
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:42:04 - TheBigPig: ok but i still wouldn't've been able to read ur grammer there. i thought you were trying to say everything is suffering, like schopenhauer
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:43:25 - nanachi ️: Uhh no, I meant Everything, as in every suffering, is our suffering xd
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:44:15 - TheBigPig: well i knew what you meant now since you already said it, im just saying that's how i interpreted it before you clarified
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 04:47:08 - nanachi ️: Ye ye
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 06:45:14 - Leon (‘CC’): Inversely, life is suffering only as long as there is a you that has to go through it.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 06:52:32 - nanachi ️: Amen or in other words... A man
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 06:52:42 - nanachi ️: 🫪
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 17:22:07 - Dr. Robinson: <@thebigpigcometh:matrix.org "ok but i still wouldn't've been ..."> Life is a sexually transmitted disease
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 17:32:48 - nanachi ️: I think Made in Abyss recently laid out before me a path more clearly than any dusty scripture I have read before. I am starting to feel like aesthetics are a major part of someones life and old dusty scriptures will never give that extra oomph because of it.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 17:33:51 - nanachi ️: I might be insane though haha
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 17:33:55 - Dr. Robinson: nanachi ️: yes Aesthetics is an important part of a person's life and I can't imagine of life without having some sense of beauty.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 17:57:26 - TheBigPig: talmud says someone who stops to admire a tree along the way to yeshiva destroys his soul
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 17:57:57 - TheBigPig: it's ok to admire beauty, but not just randomly, you're supposed to do it when ur allowed to
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 17:58:59 - TheBigPig: like shalama melek says to enjoy your wife's breast, but not someone else's wife
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:36:37 - TheBigPig: Alright, I'm not the guy to complain about off topic, but that belongs in the tv chat, not philosophy of religion /:
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:36:50 - TheBigPig: but i guess if that's your philosophy of religion
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:38:00 - ABe©eDarian: Well, if u wanna make it not be long... ;-)
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:39:11 - TheBigPig: Wolverine is so dumb... The things kids like... Like, the mechanics of wolverine are so stupid, what phenomenon would make a man grow pitch forks out of his knucles? also pitch forks are not nearly as effective as singular blades, hence why we use swords, not pitch forks. Assasin's creed makes more sense than wolverine, but is still dumb... whats the point... Just keep a knife in your pocket, it's way more incognito too, than having a whole contraption in your sleeve, which is super easy to notice after a single pat down....
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:39:36 - TheBigPig: idk, what appeals to kids is so stupid
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:39:41 - soylent_cow: Nice thing about philosophy, anything goes. Discussing where X is philosophy for example is clearly philosophy.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:40:17 - soylent_cow: i mean thats how i feel about every superhero plus batman
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:40:23 - TheBigPig: yeah I agree, but it's just funny to post pop music. i assume darian was just listening to random songs he liked, and then came to share it XD
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:40:31 - TheBigPig: superman makes sense
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:41:54 - TheBigPig: i just think some superheroes are so stupid, they're like worse than WWE
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:42:00 - soylent_cow: one of the worst offenders against every bit of common sense
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:42:23 - TheBigPig: What's wrong with superman? he's an alien, hes invinvible and immortal, laer visoin, frost breath, etc...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:42:54 - TheBigPig: Im just saying, some superheroes, when you think about them, you realize they're power is just overcomplicating and even reducing a simple process, just to seem magical and badass
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:43:50 - TheBigPig: like wolverine, technically, a guy who just had a katana is more efficiient, more efficient than a guy with a pitchfork. And a guy with a pitchfork is more efficient than wolverine, due to leverage, since, on the pitchfork, the length of the handle gives torque or whatnot
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:44:09 - TheBigPig: like wolverine, he would have no cutting power, cus he doesn't have the leverage
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:45:24 - ABe©eDarian: can get disingenuous, right..
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:45:34 - ABe©eDarian: while even a villain can be authentic
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:46:26 - ABe©eDarian: "Listen Mr. Flamboyance, we got $h!t to do here..
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:46:59 - TheBigPig: joel haver made a funny video where joker is waiting for a girl to turn 18, cus he'd been dming her since she was 16, and was gonna try dating her
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:47:19 - TheBigPig: that's true evil XD
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 18:47:27 - TheBigPig: Drake type villain
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:16:20 - TheBigPig: i want to kill the creators of AI... THey invented AI just to troll people without consequence, but I know who to be angry at
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:16:31 - TheBigPig: i have to strangle someone, and you can't strangle AI
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:16:59 - TheBigPig: Im trying to do some computer chip sutff, which is suppoesed to be the only thing ai is not incompetant at, and it comletely fucked me over...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:17:05 - air bud vs predator: idk. you can strangle me if it helps?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:17:06 - TheBigPig: useless even for electrical engineering
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:17:33 - TheBigPig: do you work for the AI assistant advertisers?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:17:46 - air bud vs predator: no
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:17:57 - TheBigPig: well then why would i strangle you?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:18:20 - TheBigPig: how would that satisfy me /: thatd make me feel bad
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:18:24 - air bud vs predator: idk just brainstorming. seems like a big complex problem.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:18:29 - TheBigPig: i want to strangle the Ai
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:18:43 - TheBigPig: so im going to the guy who told me to use it, the Ai advertisers
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:19:26 - TheBigPig: I wish people were pettier like in that movie falling down... We'd have less anyoing crap torturing us
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:19:46 - TheBigPig: like someone killdoze the data center because the Ai tricked them into baking a shitty cake or something
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:26:36 - TheBigPig: that's what levi and simon did in the tanach and it was really bad...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:27:10 - TheBigPig: cus that guy seduced their sister, i dont even know if he raped her technically... so then, they circumcised the whole city, and then killed them all...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:27:36 - TheBigPig: but, that was actually bad, if you killdoze the data center, that's saving everyone from the shitty ai instructions
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:27:43 - TheBigPig: that's a actual martyr hero
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:27:52 - TheBigPig: simon and levi were evil abstards
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:27:55 - TheBigPig: basterds
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 19:28:23 - TheBigPig: like, someone steps on their toe, they kill everyone from the city they came from...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:02:51 - TheBigPig: the thing about islam and judaism is that, islam's compatible with judaism, but judaism's not comptible with islam
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:03:26 - TheBigPig: so if islam wins, jews will all be dead, if judaism wins, islam can be just suspended in a constant fomenting of genocidal frustration forever
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:03:43 - TheBigPig: just like the current state of the middle east
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:04:02 - TheBigPig: then christianity, they just make up shit
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:04:51 - TheBigPig: they have jehovah witnesses, mormons, protestants, catholics, orthodx (greek OR russian) whatever /:
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:05:04 - TheBigPig: "black israelites"
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:05:14 - TheBigPig: whoi are literally christians, cus theyre so dumb
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:06:06 - TheBigPig: christianity's not compatible with judaism tho, unless they say christ was a prophet. Like Alex jones is comptaible with judaism, cus he says Christ was not God.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:06:54 - TheBigPig: So Alex Jones prays to God, not Jesus... that's what a lot of founding fathers believed in too, called deism, Jefferson wrote a very heretical book to the christian church, where he removed all of Jesus's miracles and left merely his moral lessons
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:08:04 - TheBigPig: Jews are actually really close to winning. Thanks to deism and islam
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:08:58 - HedgeMage: TheBigPig: We don't denegrate others' beliefs in this room. Please quit it.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:09:23 - TheBigPig: I'm just explaining judaism... I can quit, but, then i can't explain judaism
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:09:46 - TheBigPig: I was about to explain the noahide laws. jews just need to get gentiles to follow them and they win
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:09:52 - TheBigPig: Islam follows them already
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:09:56 - TheBigPig: as well as deists
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:10:09 - TheBigPig: and islam and deism is like 40% of planet already
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:10:40 - TheBigPig: I can explain judaism in a non denigrating way tho, it's just, within the jewish culture, it's very denigrating
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:10:59 - TheBigPig: So is Islam tho, they say "infidels"
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:11:14 - TheBigPig: and lots of forms of christianity say "heathens"
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:12:07 - TheBigPig: monotheism satisfies the first 2 laws of noahide laws
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:12:23 - ABe©eDarian: Backlash, lash back. I can't just pluck an eyelash out of each eye's lid, blow them away and make 2 equal wishes.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:12:36 - ABe©eDarian: Besides, bald eyelids could be problematic
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:12:46 - TheBigPig: the other 5 are just required to uphold any society in general, just natural laws, of sustainability of society
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:14:20 - HedgeMage: If you can't do it within the boundaries of courtesy and respect for a room that contains people of many faiths, don't do it here.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:14:35 - ABe©eDarian: so c ie ty
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:15:12 - TheBigPig: yeah that was my bad, I can definitely do it in a respectful way... It's just, within each faith, they speak denigratingly of others, so their explanations are abrasive culturally
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:15:42 - TheBigPig: the only way jews lose at this point is if they themselves act immorally
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:15:53 - ABe©eDarian: We may have to be faulTY humans evolvingLY
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:15:59 - ABe©eDarian: ... or it's fallTY
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:16:13 - TheBigPig: while i think the set goals of christianity and islam are impossible, since they are world domination
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:16:39 - TheBigPig: you should study hebrew, i dont think word play is spiritually valuable in english
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:16:53 - TheBigPig: in hebrew, this word play is actually a very deep tradition
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:17:16 - TheBigPig: you should read sefir yetzirah
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:17:26 - ABe©eDarian: No1 is an author it Y on if it's spiritually valuable to a consensus that decides 4 me now r they
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:17:46 - ABe©eDarian: I do not need to read that, no
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:18:11 - ABe©eDarian: The law is living on
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:18:18 - ABe©eDarian: Not going backwards to be dictated to
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:18:39 - TheBigPig: its building on foundation
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:18:57 - ABe©eDarian: Does not collect what is needed forwardingly
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:18:59 - TheBigPig: humanity itself has been built on foundation
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:19:19 - ABe©eDarian: The foundation is fine, the nitpicking demandingly is not
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:19:42 - ABe©eDarian: not at me
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:19:42 - TheBigPig: well hebrew is a very watery language
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:20:00 - ABe©eDarian: I just dr.ink actual water
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:20:43 - TheBigPig: well that's good enough... I'm just saying wordplay in english is pretty empty...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:20:59 - ABe©eDarian: yea a water bottle can be full
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:21:10 - ABe©eDarian: Did u want some sort of remote controlled puppet show?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:21:17 - TheBigPig: its fragmented, english. they have word and world for instance, but, not part of a connected fabric
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:22:48 - ABe©eDarian: Many people not having discernment cannot prevent whatever the every1 is not ready to consent to others doing
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:22:58 - ABe©eDarian: Simple as that
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:23:08 - ABe©eDarian: I'm such a simpleton
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:23:13 - ABe©eDarian: It's not complicated
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:23:53 - ABe©eDarian: When I'm not doing it with words, I'm doing it with touch.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:24:00 - ABe©eDarian: Which is also not for every1
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:24:27 - TheBigPig: well to each their own that's true
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:24:53 - ABe©eDarian: Yea, I'm not a dogmatic chaser if peepholes
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:25:40 - ABe©eDarian: I work very hard to explain Y it is not accurate to receive what I do or say as a denigration or disrespect of each's time to digest at own rate
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:26:26 - TheBigPig: yeah i agree. I only study hebrew cus i had a reason to, but that's personal
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:26:40 - TheBigPig: that's what judaism says too
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:26:49 - TheBigPig: not to chase peepholes
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:26:59 - ABe©eDarian: It's good when people can discuss 2 steps forwards and a step or half a stumble back and remain communicative
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:27:10 - ABe©eDarian: Also, when needing space, etc, the walk away
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:27:18 - ABe©eDarian: When some1 feels uncomfy we back off
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:27:39 - TheBigPig: yeah, it says that in proverbs
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:28:41 - TheBigPig: have you read proverbs? they're a lot better if u read them in hebrew too, since the translations are often wrong... but, that's wisdom, but, it's good to read them from an authorititave source since, self belief is often shaky and uncertain
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:29:24 - TheBigPig: what makes literary arts interesting is that they don't waste time with exposition
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:29:33 - ABe©eDarian: I'll never tell you that you 'said it' wrong, or that u said it wrong for me and that I'm here to correct u. I'll just respond respondingly with the best I can do with response-ability, & + I can't do that either.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:29:43 - ABe©eDarian: We'll each be a better fit for many different people
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:29:50 - ABe©eDarian: That can continue to be great
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:30:57 - ABe©eDarian: I mean I cannot perfect an articulate art for the best it equally does every1 either
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:31:04 - ABe©eDarian: A true shortcoming
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:33:03 - TheBigPig: but generally communication is for simple things.. higher speech is more for like, powerful positions
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:33:27 - TheBigPig: and generally just for filters, or secrets, or for teaching
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:33:46 - ABe©eDarian: yet shaming the glory of power = no good for any1, hence the giving people space who need somewhere to be
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:34:13 - ABe©eDarian: People are big at being misunderstanders
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:34:42 - ABe©eDarian: Like the 'who does any1 think they r' issue
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:35:01 - TheBigPig: well most choose to misunderstand, probably due to being brain scrambled, since theyd rather give the benefit of the doubt, even if their is none
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:35:23 - TheBigPig: yeah, they say "power is fake" yet it's one of the few things which are real
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:35:37 - ABe©eDarian: We try to give them cushioning for that, but as u know I'm sure, they can get dangerous
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:35:54 - TheBigPig: they already are dangerous ...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:36:03 - TheBigPig: stay wary
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:36:04 - ABe©eDarian: For sure
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:36:25 - TheBigPig: have you read proverbs? cus this is what it's all about
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:37:15 - ABe©eDarian: I'm sure I have not 'read it'
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:37:29 - ABe©eDarian: Reddit. ;\
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:37:30 - TheBigPig: so you look up to it?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:37:39 - TheBigPig: lol
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:37:49 - ABe©eDarian: Who feels it and understands and overstands what they feel knows it
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:37:52 - TheBigPig: reddit, they think theyve reddit all
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:38:22 - TheBigPig: when theyve only mouthed the words of a bad translation, and fit it into their bias
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:38:44 - TheBigPig: and they;ve lived their whole lives as the smartest person in the world
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:38:52 - TheBigPig: in their own minds
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:39:24 - ABe©eDarian: It's unfortunate that the level of the getting bent out of shape is all over a reaction to what intends better for them than they are capable of doing for themselves or receiving or reciprocating
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:39:33 - ABe©eDarian: yet the reasons don't cease
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:40:10 - ABe©eDarian: I lost myself and I was a turd, and I retrieved. Tis also what it's all about.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:40:25 - TheBigPig: but to mourn over it itself is a act of folly, because, in reality, it creates the power vacuum which gives you a chance
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:40:42 - TheBigPig: to realize you were eating shit
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:40:49 - TheBigPig: "naked lunch"
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:40:54 - ABe©eDarian: Hehe
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:41:11 - ABe©eDarian: We wouldn't want to turn an entire ouroboros into the human centipede now would we
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:41:27 - TheBigPig: well microcosm macrocosm
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:43:13 - ABe©eDarian: naked lunch, soylent green, maybe 'the cure for wellness'
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:43:18 - ABe©eDarian: 3rd 1 is a movie too
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:43:38 - TheBigPig: havent seen that one. is it good?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:43:57 - TheBigPig: soylent green's surprisingly a great movie. I thought it was a novelty before i watched it
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:44:11 - ABe©eDarian: It's decent to give a watch, still just a movie and still exemplifies somethings and still doesn't do any perfect justices
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:44:49 - TheBigPig: yeah, but I think movies are just like most arts, they can't ever give you anything really, except little pieces, even great works like Bach
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:45:30 - TheBigPig: Some people don't even have to read a single book in their life, and if they did it'd be a mistake for them...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:45:46 - TheBigPig: while others have to spend their whole life reading a book
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:47:22 - TheBigPig: entertainment is a mystery
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:47:32 - TheBigPig: itself
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:48:08 - TheBigPig: some say it's poison, it might be, might be water... idk
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:49:01 - TheBigPig: but i think, if you don't know, follow the heart
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:49:05 - ABe©eDarian: And those 2 types should not do battle. ie writer vs reader
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:49:10 - ABe©eDarian: food for thought
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:49:30 - TheBigPig: scaruffi said the critic is the true artist
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:49:49 - TheBigPig: I think critics are very underrated, roger ebert, scaruffi, even nabakov
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:49:54 - ABe©eDarian: Enigmatic juxtapose, bring to a head, personal intent, purple heart, pinkified. Some things r worth sharing.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:50:25 - ABe©eDarian: Some criticism is a reminder or missing info, yes. Some stems from misunderstanding.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:51:39 - ABe©eDarian: Some mistakes are missed_takes. Some of everything is not received well. Some things should never be taken by takers.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:51:53 - ABe©eDarian: Esoteric
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:51:59 - TheBigPig: i think the value of it is in curation, but of course, there are many factors as you said
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:52:20 - ABe©eDarian: For sure.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:52:37 - ABe©eDarian: I need curators, for the sake of selective selected receivers
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:52:44 - TheBigPig: curation, i had to search it up, but that's a word that's always stuck deeply with me, and i always forget it too
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:54:01 - ABe©eDarian: If 1 thing does 8 people good, but mixes up 1 other person, and hurts yet another who could be self-destructive or suicidal or murderous, out of the 10,
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:54:07 - ABe©eDarian: what's the best thing to do
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:54:24 - ABe©eDarian: 80% distributed
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:55:41 - TheBigPig: I think what it is is, we have lots of imitation, imitation of 1 who was practical, for all is rooted in practicality, language itself, and people have lost that in the heavily built modernity, where they exist in a machine, where they can't even concieve of the concept of a root
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:55:53 - ABe©eDarian: Doesn't mean the 2 people are left out for good or for permanent
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:56:04 - ABe©eDarian: It's just the full-send-discernment
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:56:32 - ABe©eDarian: and composers of already completed works can be fine too
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:56:38 - TheBigPig: this is why farming does a lot of good for the modern ailment of the soul
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:56:49 - ABe©eDarian: as long as not done badly by imposters for malicious parasitic reasons
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:57:27 - TheBigPig: being rootless can be the result of no malicious intent too...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:57:36 - ABe©eDarian: +
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:57:50 - ABe©eDarian: Well I don't mean that it's bad to emulate
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:58:16 - ABe©eDarian: Just that to mean well and learn why etc. is the better for them
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:58:59 - TheBigPig: there's a difference between imitation, and building on foundation. I don't think imitation is satisfying art, and it could mess people up, since it's vanity, if the enjoyer is decieved into chasing vanity
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 20:59:37 - ABe©eDarian: Yea, the juxtapostion, the contraSting aspects and connotations and right from wrong of it
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:00:18 - ABe©eDarian: Which 'side's version, straight up
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:01:10 - TheBigPig: thats why in the talmud it says "the one who stops along the way to admire the beauty of a tree destroys his soul" I think, cus, it is an unfounded admiration. What if the tree is of his enemy? for instance. It is the same as, "you go into the strange women's lair, and give your wealth to your enemy"
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:01:54 - TheBigPig: war is a foundational fact of man
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:02:03 - TheBigPig: in the world
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:02:34 - ABe©eDarian: Yin-yang-inG can be done in differing ways too, and also some may stop and admire and digest and grow and evolve... not needing someone to breath down their neck and tell them to not be allowed to do that. Also, where and with whome is the tree comfortable.. ;]
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:03:19 - TheBigPig: Yes, but talmud doesnt breathe down the neck, it's called a sea...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:03:54 - ABe©eDarian: I likely wasn't refering to the talmud guy, just who may wish to be his unappointed flying monkies
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:04:05 - ABe©eDarian: or the talmud doctrines
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:04:06 - TheBigPig: it's merely a place to confirm ur own level... or something like that
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:04:40 - ABe©eDarian: I agree with the aspect of people best not interrupt their gainful growths to be lost into what they stare at
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:04:56 - TheBigPig: that's a problem yeah, they actually say thats why only rabbis can share it, cus otherwise, it is perverted...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:05:38 - TheBigPig: that's why its not law, but rather, like meditation, or "a sea"
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:06:15 - ABe©eDarian: U may personally never want someone to tell you how they feel Jesus lived his life that you should footstep follow into if you're like him or following.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:06:30 - ABe©eDarian: because to them, even without their knowing, he may be a cartoon
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:06:37 - ABe©eDarian: with all candy for a vocab
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:07:07 - ABe©eDarian: *to them*
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:07:45 - ABe©eDarian: *Some would make me or you or any1 a character
based on a true story
of other people.*
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:07:47 - TheBigPig: those peole I don't even worry about though. Sort of like how we don't worry about animals, even lions, in the modern day... I think worrying about others at all is a mystery
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:07:52 - TheBigPig: to me that is, of course
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:08:11 - ABe©eDarian: It is. I've been miserable.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:08:25 - TheBigPig: you should meditate
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:08:33 - TheBigPig: when i feel spiritual mysery that helps me
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:08:59 - ABe©eDarian: It's good to talk with you. And I have been astray from the best of my own zen moments
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:09:08 - TheBigPig: get to the foundation of your operating system, for lack of a better word
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:09:16 - TheBigPig: bug fixing... perhaps
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:09:43 - TheBigPig: or perhaps, simply rest... shabot
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:09:59 - ABe©eDarian: Attempting to help those who are too grabby is definitely a hell of it's own
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:10:24 - TheBigPig: I think you can only help yourself, and that's the only way to help others
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:10:39 - TheBigPig: Life is not life unless it's enjoyed...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:10:52 - TheBigPig: Many disagree.. cant be helped
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:11:35 - ABe©eDarian: People can help each other and not just help themselves. While there being 'help themselves' and there being *help themselves*
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:11:58 - ABe©eDarian: Having one's self and having from another, and not taking
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:12:00 - TheBigPig: but you can't base your definitions off others's misunderstandings...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:12:12 - TheBigPig: otherwise you can't speak at all
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:12:35 - ABe©eDarian: I agree. I give a piece, and hope to find better peace. It's important to my health and survival
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:13:14 - TheBigPig: "better a king of the mind, then a slave to it, and king of the world" I think this ones a fact.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:13:34 - ABe©eDarian: If some1 loves me and the definition of loving me is exclusively loving what they get / (*I'm supply*), that is no bueno
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:14:13 - TheBigPig: love is a complexity, and a mystery... People say it, but...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:14:26 - TheBigPig: It is because someone long ago said it only
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:14:37 - TheBigPig: and no one knows who
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:15:38 - ABe©eDarian: It's amazing to have watched people virtue signal about the empathy they demand and truly lack it for others
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:15:52 - ABe©eDarian: ie supply
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:16:26 - TheBigPig: yes, it's the same story. Empathy to me is a treatise, but because I know it (at least in my own mind) they say i don't have it...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:16:42 - TheBigPig: it is not a feeling, it's a complicated machine
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:16:59 - TheBigPig: they used to teach ethics in school, now they call it a pseudoscience...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:17:02 - ABe©eDarian: No, u have a circumspectiveness about u
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:17:13 - ABe©eDarian: That is where truer empathy resides
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:18:00 - TheBigPig: I think morality and ethics is a fact, and it's very complicated... People have decided it is just innate... That has destroyed it
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:18:01 - ABe©eDarian: Free love can be very very expensive
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:18:45 - TheBigPig: Well that's just another parrot... you shouldnt worry about parrots...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:19:07 - TheBigPig: once love was a 1000 page long book... Now it is a mystery... that's what i think
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:19:25 - TheBigPig: but it's not a mystery, it was burned in a fire
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:19:35 - TheBigPig: so now it is one
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:19:38 - ABe©eDarian: Again, with the many will loudly proudly even boastfully claim their involvement in 'free love' while being takers who are very expensive to who was providing
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:19:55 - TheBigPig: theyre cannibals...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:20:07 - TheBigPig: as the grass is green
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:20:10 - ABe©eDarian: They are not reciprocal
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:20:27 - TheBigPig: I don't know why you worry about them if you see them...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:20:28 - ABe©eDarian: So.. they should learn to curb their enthusiasm for taking
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:20:40 - TheBigPig: they are lost causes...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:20:48 - TheBigPig: they have dogmatism which can't be rooted
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:21:25 - ABe©eDarian: Had my leftover Chinese food earlier
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:21:28 - ABe©eDarian sent an image. (Media omitted)
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:21:59 - ABe©eDarian: Kinda blurry I guess ;]
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:22:09 - TheBigPig: yeah, i guess you're in the pit with them
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:22:26 - TheBigPig: thats why u complain about them... being in the pit itself is a mystery
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:23:08 - ABe©eDarian: That subject is about them want a token child of extra color
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:23:12 - ABe©eDarian: a jackpot and windfall
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:23:15 - ABe©eDarian: an easy street
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:24:02 - ABe©eDarian: Meanwhile they'll claim the greediness of whoever they don't like that has more of anything
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:24:22 - TheBigPig: yeah i think so too... the grass is greener disease
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:24:27 - ABe©eDarian: They don't have accuracies on these subjects
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:25:01 - TheBigPig: there's a proverb "dont say the past times were better, for you've not spoken from wisdom"
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:25:39 - ABe©eDarian: When some people's feelings 'will be the judge of that', and they aren't the right people..
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:25:55 - ABe©eDarian: this is what happens
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:27:50 - TheBigPig: I think it's all about how you handle it. Money is important, but some people are destined to be poor, and learn to love it
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:27:59 - TheBigPig: have to
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:28:20 - TheBigPig: perhaps accepting your lot is the whole point
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:28:36 - TheBigPig: and striving for more is merely an element of that
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:28:53 - ABe©eDarian: Richness of spirit. Poor in spirit is not a good fit to play Mr. Bigshot fla$h or Al Capone ladies' man etc etc
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:29:19 - TheBigPig: But also, to accept that it never comes at all is a important quality.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:29:59 - ABe©eDarian: Issues with not being a real go-getter because of having too much and being sucked on and bitten at and grabbed
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:30:09 - ABe©eDarian: How to give so much in context with $
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:30:42 - ABe©eDarian: People are, in that situation, used to getting more through a sexual spill
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:30:51 - ABe©eDarian: They don't deserve a tadpole
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:31:03 - ABe©eDarian: a Humpty Dumpty
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:31:08 - ABe©eDarian: and eggs get scrambled
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:31:14 - ABe©eDarian: No allowance of gamble
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:31:22 - TheBigPig: yes, i think money is a undeniable fact, and at the same time an illusion, either side you're on
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:32:43 - TheBigPig: you have to be the same on either side, same struggle, to be correct. Death itself is not the factor people make it out to be, who live just to mark the clock
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:33:52 - ABe©eDarian: Hence why some are not to be trusted with big $ they'd use as leverage on people who deserve an actual good person as the provider
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:34:17 - ABe©eDarian: Having children also gets used as leverage and as supply
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:34:24 - ABe©eDarian: and a way out
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:34:31 - ABe©eDarian: at the expense of the innocent
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:34:43 - ABe©eDarian: Not gonna continue
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:34:55 - ABe©eDarian: Certainly not with/from me
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:35:12 - ABe©eDarian: They can get deadended shooting blanks
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:35:45 - ABe©eDarian: No1 needs grey aliens trying to poach people
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:36:52 - ABe©eDarian: No1 who's any1
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:37:42 - TheBigPig: But money's over all chaos. A great man gives his wealth just as well to wicked children
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:37:56 - TheBigPig: just as, a poor man's child takes their place
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:38:20 - ABe©eDarian: The son suffers for the sins of his father type stuff
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:38:25 - TheBigPig: the way of generations merely makes it a century of war, and a cenury of peace
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:38:33 - ABe©eDarian: The daughter doesn't get a good toad to kiss
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:38:40 - ABe©eDarian: etc
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:38:41 - TheBigPig: while money changes hands grudgingly
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:38:56 - ABe©eDarian: Opportunistic parasitism
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:39:13 - ABe©eDarian: They love to take down the whole alphabet
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:39:25 - ABe©eDarian: And get their temporary euphoria
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:39:46 - TheBigPig: opportunistic parasitism isn't inherently wrong I think...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:39:55 - TheBigPig: how would the poor ever get rich?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:40:03 - TheBigPig: how would wicked kings ever be dethroned
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:40:19 - ABe©eDarian: Tis why I kept it in my plants
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:40:25 - ABe©eDarian: Now see what they've accomplished
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:40:27 - TheBigPig: this is more a result of the wicked children of kings
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:40:40 - TheBigPig: caligula
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:40:46 - ABe©eDarian: gross
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:42:16 - TheBigPig: when the world's chaos planting becomes impotent, have to adapt to times
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:42:37 - TheBigPig: gardener in a war
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:42:51 - ABe©eDarian: Not interested in giving that to what would be my kids and not theirs
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:43:05 - ABe©eDarian: 0% interested in doing that
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:43:37 - ABe©eDarian: A true bastardization of an entire shituation.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:43:48 - TheBigPig: Well gardener's do have some immortality, due to the eternal outskirts of the conflicts of the world
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:43:57 - TheBigPig: I considered that, perhaps best choice is not to play...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:44:06 - ABe©eDarian: And they can congratulate eachother
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:44:11 - TheBigPig: i think i do that personally, and agree
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:44:12 - ABe©eDarian: on that
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:44:29 - TheBigPig: but there is a level you have to take, not complete depravity, but cunningness
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:44:35 - ABe©eDarian: big missed take, bad wide receiving skills
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:45:07 - ABe©eDarian: They can watch Nickelodeon and have their Quarterback
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:45:18 - ABe©eDarian: 'bling bling'
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:45:54 - ABe©eDarian: Dementia
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:46:14 - ABe©eDarian: Not what I wanted for any1
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:46:49 - ABe©eDarian: Tulips !
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:46:56 - ABe©eDarian: What rose?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:47:11 - ABe©eDarian: car nations
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:47:19 - ABe©eDarian: vroom vroom
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:47:21 - ABe©eDarian: Mushroom
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:47:28 - ABe©eDarian: fungals and fungi
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:48:15 - TheBigPig: bumpkins over all are just the fabric of the world, I don't think they function as players, it's all about who's holding them... Like 1776 was orchestrated by a small group of 2000 people, controlling the 2.5 mil...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:49:08 - TheBigPig: maybe there's a general progress towards mass enlightenment, but, don't think that's the current fabric, otherwise, we wouldn't have these problems
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:49:36 - ABe©eDarian: MomMeanTummies
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:49:43 - ABe©eDarian: momentums
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:49:47 - ABe©eDarian: inertia
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:51:07 - ABe©eDarian: Some sort of rap video on mtv where dude does his '**mic**roscopic **drop!**'
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:51:29 - ABe©eDarian: Cmon, at least head towards macaroni '}
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:52:05 - TheBigPig: that culture defends its own existence through "tongue in cheek stupidity", but it's clearly propaganda
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:52:20 - TheBigPig: people making stupidity a virtue...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:52:49 - TheBigPig: oppresive authoritarianism
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:53:06 - TheBigPig: unnatural
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:53:18 - TheBigPig: doublethink
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:56:32 - ABe©eDarian: I'm not again them all in a broad generality or anything
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:56:35 - ABe©eDarian: They get to play
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:57:11 - ABe©eDarian: Simple specific ones of them are certainly merely successful douches
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:57:35 - TheBigPig: a proverb "dont fret yourself if you encounter wickedness passing through a city, for there are men above them, and men above them"
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:57:40 - TheBigPig: they're wallets
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:57:47 - TheBigPig: controllable
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:58:07 - TheBigPig: not really rich... they don't even own themselves
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:58:30 - ABe©eDarian: Pulpable balloons
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:58:36 - ABe©eDarian: poppable
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:58:46 - ABe©eDarian: meanwhile feeling unstoppable
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:58:51 - ABe©eDarian: for a bit
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 21:59:10 - ABe©eDarian: Expensive to the youth
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:01:17 - TheBigPig: King David was the king's jester. His son tried killing him. So I wonder why King Solomon's descendents turned wicked... Outside of control. it was not his son but his son's sons... Because, sometimes the right man simply isn't there...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:01:46 - TheBigPig: So chaos is often just a fact
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:02:33 - ABe©eDarian: Enlarges the need for the pivotal
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:02:43 - ABe©eDarian: and the retrieval.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:02:47 - TheBigPig: decentralization
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:02:52 - TheBigPig: mass enlightenment
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:03:04 - TheBigPig: better soil
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:03:07 - TheBigPig: culture
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:03:19 - ABe©eDarian: I'm drinking this Kombucha I really like.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:03:23 - ABe©eDarian: Good for my guts.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:05:13 - TheBigPig: I think there's an overall, and it's simple, and complexities are merely its breaths
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:05:37 - ABe©eDarian: I played a few characters.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:05:46 - ABe©eDarian: People were blemish-collecting.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:06:04 - ABe©eDarian: -Scapegoat central-
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:06:29 - ABe©eDarian: smear campaigns, a tendency
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:06:46 - ABe©eDarian: Is that good for them?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:07:01 - ABe©eDarian: Do they get a real Boost?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:09:46 - TheBigPig: I don't know if you can fault cold calculated logic...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:10:09 - TheBigPig: is it not the fault of the ones who blinded themselves to it?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:10:19 - ABe©eDarian: It is!
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:10:38 - ABe©eDarian: I love when hindsight is 20/20 and we go forward
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:10:49 - ABe©eDarian: 2 wrongs make how many rights
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:10:51 - ABe©eDarian: 0
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:10:54 - ABe©eDarian: 2
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:10:55 - ABe©eDarian: 0
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:11:24 - ABe©eDarian: Unfortunately a 'guilt trip in a shame factory' got perpetuated
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:11:32 - ABe©eDarian: Not my nature
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:12:00 - TheBigPig: the throne of cold calculation though will always be open, awlays be filled, the only determining factor really is elsewhere
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:12:12 - TheBigPig: perhaps the people, perhaps the heros, etc
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:12:14 - ABe©eDarian: Accept that which I cannot change
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:12:43 - ABe©eDarian: So... I should not go wishful thinking on overdrive
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:13:28 - TheBigPig: in talmud they say, if you want to repent for shame, merely say "the shame", for if you describe it, then you're not really ashamed...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:14:17 - TheBigPig: it's not something which grows, but is rooted and discarded
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:14:27 - TheBigPig: trash
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:15:01 - ABe©eDarian: as opposed to "that's concentrated evil coming out the back of you, and there will always be more"
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:15:09 - ABe©eDarian: .. because you ate food and went to the bathoom
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:15:12 - ABe©eDarian: and will do it again
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:16:03 - TheBigPig: yes, we dont frame our turds, we flush them
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:16:11 - TheBigPig: some people frame them...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:16:48 - ABe©eDarian: If you are, as a kid, told fudge is made of dog crap
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:17:01 - ABe©eDarian: Happens.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:17:29 - TheBigPig: comes from a place of deeply cultivated perversion, unnatural
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:17:30 - ABe©eDarian: Progress then
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:17:35 - ABe©eDarian: Seems exemplifying
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:17:44 - ABe©eDarian: Last time then
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:17:58 - TheBigPig: i think of jacob's ladder
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:18:05 - ABe©eDarian: Not something I would see a reason to put on another
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:19:13 - ABe©eDarian: oink oink
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:19:34 - TheBigPig: Is there any reason to put anything on another?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:19:48 - ABe©eDarian: ^ ?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:20:09 - TheBigPig: ?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:20:33 - ABe©eDarian: It's good that u weren't reprimanded and sent right out of the room today now isn't it..
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:20:54 - ABe©eDarian: gj
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:21:00 - TheBigPig: you mean the chat room?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:21:04 - ABe©eDarian: Yea
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:21:10 - ABe©eDarian: We work well together
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:21:10 - TheBigPig: ive been here like 6 days already
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:21:20 - TheBigPig: it's just a fun way of talking
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:21:28 - ABe©eDarian: Well I mean today/tonight when a Mod warned u
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:21:45 - ABe©eDarian: I'm not a moderator, so
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:21:46 - TheBigPig: oh maybe
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:21:58 - TheBigPig: i think dr robinson owns this place and ive had big chats with him
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:22:00 - ABe©eDarian: Shoulda seen me spam a chatroom or 2
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:22:07 - ABe©eDarian: What a character
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:22:18 - TheBigPig: i got banned from perhaps 90% of the ones i found, and im still in about 3 so
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:22:31 - TheBigPig: defo didnt deserve to be tho
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:22:51 - TheBigPig: mods get their thrills from scorched earth, middle management
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:23:29 - ABe©eDarian: It's ok. 2 steps forward, 1 back, --->
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:23:37 - ABe©eDarian: You pivotted it, and continued
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:24:07 - TheBigPig: for many they have to walk backwards a long way to go forward, dead ends...
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:25:01 - TheBigPig: lots of jews talk this way, that's why biblical hebrew was so watery... its a big tradition
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:25:30 - ABe©eDarian: It's amazing how one can be extremely aware and attempting to cushion blows, kid-glove people, give their best, and have people wanting to shut them down
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:25:54 - ABe©eDarian: Anti-progress, but laregly just misunderstanding anyway
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:26:06 - TheBigPig: well it comes from a keen understanding of power dynamics... they're not dumb
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:26:15 - TheBigPig: its just power dynamics is all they see
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:26:50 - ABe©eDarian: I think it's that they may sense when 8 are there and 1 dropped down and yet another got mixed.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:27:02 - ABe©eDarian: then asks of us to collect it better, forwardly
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:27:03 - ABe©eDarian: I'
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:27:19 - ABe©eDarian: I've done it worse, + better
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:27:31 - ABe©eDarian: and semantics issues, etc.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:27:58 - ABe©eDarian: Some flow forward much faster
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:28:20 - ABe©eDarian: Sometimes that happening, to be filtered later, is best, too
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:28:34 - TheBigPig: the happening is all that matters yeah
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:29:07 - ABe©eDarian: Piece. Peace. PIE (C)lose (E)ye
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:29:18 - ABe©eDarian: o pen
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:29:22 - ABe©eDarian: nope?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:29:24 - ABe©eDarian: Yes
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:29:29 - ABe©eDarian: may be
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:30:34 - TheBigPig: I think wordplay only works in a wittgenstein sense in any language not hebrew, that is, codes, not for spiritual or natural revelations
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:30:55 - * ABe©eDarian googles wittgenstein
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:30:59 - TheBigPig: but for codes yes
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:31:23 - ABe©eDarian: What works for some doesn't work for others, but it works for some.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:31:38 - ABe©eDarian: And others have what works not be for another *others*
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:31:48 - TheBigPig: its language itself
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:32:07 - ABe©eDarian: People kill over something said from a head
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:32:13 - ABe©eDarian: knuckle sandwiches, all that
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:32:30 - TheBigPig: a wide mind with a shape shifting language exercises a faculty which lies dormant in most
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:32:44 - ABe©eDarian: even *with* heart
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:33:06 - TheBigPig: Like Pavlov's dog
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:33:21 - ABe©eDarian: So, this means, that I am not to be 'tuned up' to become food for every1's thought and equal access
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:33:28 - ABe©eDarian: Esoteric
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:33:56 - TheBigPig: you can't go forward if you gather, and there's nothing to gather until you go forward
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:35:31 - ABe©eDarian: Some tend to think things such as "You have a lot of raw potential, and we have the perfect recipe"
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:36:01 - ABe©eDarian: while thinking the potential is as a way to accomplish something they have in mind that is not realistic.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:36:22 - ABe©eDarian: This isn't culinary arts.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:36:36 - ABe©eDarian: Well, it kinda is. But it isn't.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:37:24 - ABe©eDarian: They just think they have molds for whoever they want to be their next meltable wax.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:37:50 - ABe©eDarian: They may even think they justly think that
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:39:00 - ABe©eDarian: Dog spells god backwards. Sorry, wordplay, ;]. Doesn't mean dogs are anti-god or god is anti-dog.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:39:08 - ABe©eDarian: But some want to get to decide there can't be cats.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:39:58 - TheBigPig: That's a big issue, people mistake the machine, which merely got the job done (by a hair) as the truth
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:40:10 - TheBigPig: like a janky toaster is the truth
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:40:20 - ABe©eDarian: I spelled dog with a capital D, and God with a lowercase g.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:40:30 - ABe©eDarian: Would someone fly off the handle thinking there was disrespect ?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:40:50 - TheBigPig: well yeah a jew lol
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:41:35 - TheBigPig: you have to be on your best behavior with God in Judaism
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:41:52 - ABe©eDarian: Then I won't hang around.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:42:01 - ABe©eDarian: But that's another generalization.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:42:15 - ABe©eDarian: Isn't an everyone-who-is-Jewish would fly off the handle like that issue
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:42:22 - ABe©eDarian: see? capital J !
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:42:31 - TheBigPig: most jews are secular
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:42:47 - ABe©eDarian: Jerry SignField
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:42:50 - TheBigPig: it's a complex religion based on everyone at their own level trying their best
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:43:04 - TheBigPig: I think that could be the literal meaning of his name tho
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:43:36 - ABe©eDarian: Yet, some1 says or types that, grammar&spelling police etc might be there
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:43:40 - ABe©eDarian: How productive
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:43:55 - TheBigPig: grammer police are crazy... they try to neuter language
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:44:47 - TheBigPig: the middle manangement power dynamics lizards again
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:45:17 - ABe©eDarian: They risk ending up as chickens / dinosaurs / birds, who cannot fly..
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:45:42 - TheBigPig: grammers only an issue if you truly wrote something else, but when someone rites somethng else is really rare
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:45:46 - TheBigPig: write right rite
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:45:47 - ABe©eDarian: Also, the feeling that the birds who can fly only do so to be able to poop on them
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:46:16 - TheBigPig: it''s ahorrible epidemic, stnadardization
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:46:23 - TheBigPig: im scared theyre doing it to french and hebrew now
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:46:57 - TheBigPig: it breeds mediocre dysfunctianl pseudosciences
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:50:14 - TheBigPig: british, irish, scottish still have the english language well done, as well as southern, nyc/eastocast... but of course, standardization police are still relentless
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:50:57 - TheBigPig: "no child left behind act" mass lobotomy
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:51:02 - TheBigPig: malicious
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:55:33 - TheBigPig: jargon is essential in complex matters
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:58:11 - ABe©eDarian: Who wants to be the authority on how to talk about a subject,
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:58:24 - ABe©eDarian: and how God-appointed do they feel, and why?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:59:15 - TheBigPig: Same as a dog, they do it for a bone
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 22:59:29 - ABe©eDarian: They can get 1 in the bumhole if they wanna be bums about it.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:00:13 - TheBigPig: oncce you give a dog enough bones, the act itself to him is like a bone, pavlov
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:01:35 - ABe©eDarian: I'm pretty sure I can not read it and know the bible does not just say Jews are special and **G**od gives them the promised everything, without what suggests that pretty much being the center of a sandwich where the bread slices say they f'd up with **G**od.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:01:37 - ABe©eDarian: G.G.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:02:37 - ABe©eDarian: ie '"We're special, because we highlighted something that suggests our favorite suggestion that we are."
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:03:07 - ABe©eDarian: I got several different colored highlighters right here..
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:04:18 - TheBigPig: Judaism says God is real and he chose the Jews, so in jewish lore, it's like living up to God's expectations, not a reward, but a pat on the back and "keep up the good work"... Like a promotion
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:04:56 - TheBigPig: so it's like if God is the boss, and the jews were employee of the month
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:04:58 - ABe©eDarian: and I can do that too, without regard for their regard for my doings
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:05:22 - ABe©eDarian: but, i don't , for a mere bone
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:05:26 - TheBigPig: jews are very insular and exclusive, they make a point to ignore outsiders
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:05:28 - ABe©eDarian: I never even got one
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:06:04 - * ABe©eDarian is not Pavlov's-Dogg-ing with his life.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:06:30 - ABe©eDarian: I know, i know, talking of one's self in the 3rd person is such a sign of mental illness.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:08:22 - TheBigPig: I don't even have 3rd person in my system
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:09:04 - ABe©eDarian: I think it's because i did the /me "_________" chatroom thing
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:09:07 - TheBigPig: 3rd person is prolly really negative, whether compliment or insult
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:09:08 - ABe©eDarian: ;-)
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:09:43 - TheBigPig: Lots of people operate in 3rd person lol
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:09:47 - TheBigPig: its bad
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:09:58 - TheBigPig: self commidification
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:10:07 - ABe©eDarian: Funny how it's "We're #1 !" that people like to do. Team jacket. Party. Religion. Etc.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:10:14 - ABe©eDarian: How individualistic.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:10:48 - TheBigPig: well it works if the system is good. It's bad if it's a bad system
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:10:59 - ABe©eDarian: True.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:11:14 - TheBigPig: jews are well aware of that "corniness" so to speak
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:11:26 - TheBigPig: lots of them hate it and turn against the tribe about it.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:11:44 - ABe©eDarian: ^
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:11:56 - TheBigPig: like virtue signaling, the thing with the moneys wasting the bananas, living dnagerous, driving ferraris, wasting money
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:12:30 - TheBigPig: judaism has an ideal jew, but obviously, no jew lives up to it, but some are closer than others
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:12:50 - TheBigPig: ideal jew hasn't even been born yet, it's gonna be moschiach
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:13:00 - TheBigPig: enoch was perfect but not jewish
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:14:05 - ABe©eDarian: So, did Enoch want to give them a seed to turn into a Jewish baby?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:14:28 - ABe©eDarian: And if he did not. Then what would it be called if they tried to get anything?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:15:13 - TheBigPig: Enoch's not related to jews at all i think
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:15:34 - TheBigPig: I think he was pre flood
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:15:40 - TheBigPig: idk
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:16:46 - TheBigPig: there's only 1 sentence about him in the tanach "he walked with God his whole life, and then God took him" something like that
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:17:28 - ABe©eDarian: Way to go Enoch!
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:17:52 - ABe©eDarian: Numero Uno
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:18:17 - TheBigPig: Book of Enoch is prolly fake... we only just have that 1 sentence from genesis
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:18:31 - TheBigPig: perhaps some kabballa stuff
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:18:43 - ABe©eDarian: People do like to tell stories and make an influence, and indoctrinate.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:19:05 - ABe©eDarian: Everyone's got their own creativity I guess.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:19:13 - TheBigPig: well that's what parents do to children, not inherently wrong
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:19:32 - ABe©eDarian: <---Connotations--->
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:19:43 - ABe©eDarian: Doesn't have to be half con-notations
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:20:00 - ABe©eDarian: & con=with? or con=conman
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:20:14 - ABe©eDarian: Also, simply surprising the kids.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:20:22 - ABe©eDarian: YaY!
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:20:45 - ABe©eDarian: *Spanish?*
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:21:07 - ABe©eDarian: chili con carne
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:23:00 - TheBigPig: actually i guess the talmud says Enoch wasn't perfect
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:23:21 - ABe©eDarian: Forgivable I reckon.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:23:38 - ABe©eDarian: God lets an imperfect man walk with him.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:23:42 - ABe©eDarian: What a nice God.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:23:52 - ABe©eDarian: Still got to go home.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:24:04 - ABe©eDarian: Was it even or odd?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:24:15 - ABe©eDarian: Something to believe in or robbed?
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:24:51 - TheBigPig: even and believe in
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:24:52 - ABe©eDarian: Food for eating and food for thought.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:25:16 - TheBigPig: they say everyone was pretty bad back then, so Enoch was just good enough
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:25:34 - ABe©eDarian: Kinda like the best prospect for progress
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:25:43 - TheBigPig: exacly
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:25:45 - ABe©eDarian: *if he was real*
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:26:10 - TheBigPig: you can take it as allegory, Rambam did, and he's halakha
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:26:17 - TheBigPig: i take it literal
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:26:33 - TheBigPig: but Rambam is more trust worthy than me
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:26:40 - ABe©eDarian: And I, not a bookworm, work with this.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:26:58 - ABe©eDarian: Familiar.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:27:27 - ABe©eDarian: Unfortunately some might wonder why the word liar is in the word familiar.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:27:29 - ABe©eDarian: Uh oh!
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:27:48 - ABe©eDarian: AI is here now
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:27:49 - TheBigPig: there's always an excuse /:
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:28:35 - TheBigPig: well reading chat messages isn't much different from a book... often a book is better, but sometimes, better than a book, depending on who you talk to and when
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:33:57 - ABe©eDarian sent an image.
Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 23:34:06 - ABe©eDarian: Siriusly