Whatever the case, that's the leaf I'd love everyone to try. What we get today represents chacruna poorly.
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Is there a significant difference between Chacruna-based Ayahuasca and Chaliponga (Chaliponga-based Yagé) ceremonies?
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You guys have me seriously wanting to try chali. It's a shame it's so hard to find live plants, especially in Australia. Luckily we have decent strength chacruna available but also an array of various Acacia sp which all have their own flavour.
Though I haven't had a chali brew, I have had multiple different sources of dmt admixture plants (chacruna and various acacias). I would say absolutely different plants have their different qualities to the experience. Acacia tends to be more crisp, sharp, HD in it's visual space compared to chacruna. And yet Chacruna will never not have a special place in my heart.
I wholeheartedly agree with @northape. If you're going to a 'held' ceremony you want to make sure the competence of the person holding the space, it's honestly crucial. I don't think they necessarily need years of training deep in isolation in the amazon, however they want to be absolutely very experienced and able to provide the container correctly. I think things get gross and potentially even somewhat dangerous when the facillitator isn't adequately experienced which I've unfornately experienced a few times. This will probably be the biggest determinant of your experience, at least ime. The facillitator will provide the bulk of the context of the setting, can have some influence on the set. All of the factors you list for question number 3 are more important than the specific plants used.
Though I haven't had a chali brew, I have had multiple different sources of dmt admixture plants (chacruna and various acacias). I would say absolutely different plants have their different qualities to the experience. Acacia tends to be more crisp, sharp, HD in it's visual space compared to chacruna. And yet Chacruna will never not have a special place in my heart.
I wholeheartedly agree with @northape. If you're going to a 'held' ceremony you want to make sure the competence of the person holding the space, it's honestly crucial. I don't think they necessarily need years of training deep in isolation in the amazon, however they want to be absolutely very experienced and able to provide the container correctly. I think things get gross and potentially even somewhat dangerous when the facillitator isn't adequately experienced which I've unfornately experienced a few times. This will probably be the biggest determinant of your experience, at least ime. The facillitator will provide the bulk of the context of the setting, can have some influence on the set. All of the factors you list for question number 3 are more important than the specific plants used.
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