Coca Cola to lower pH, to pH 4?

[Drake]

So I am not having a fun time getting Phosphoric Acid. It is really becoming a pain in the neck, and I don't really want to use any other acids. I have read that Coca Cola has a % of Phosphoric Acid? I think 2%?

Would the other ingredients in Coke screw up the DMT extraction process? I would be more then happy to use Coke, because if any of the ingredients from the Coke are carried in the final product, it won't matter.

I also found another product that contains Phosphoric Acid:

Emetrol Solution 100ML Lemon/Mint

Ingredients:
Each 10mL contains: Fructose 3.75g Glucose 3.75g Phosphoric Acid 50mg at pH 1.3 to 2.0 This product contains methyl hydroxybenzoate.

I don't think the Fructose and Glucose will be a problem in the extraction process. But what about the methyl hydroxybenzoate?

I did a search about methyl hydroxybenzoate on Wiki. Could not find info on it. Only info on Methylparaben, and that was redirected from Methyl p-hydroxybenzoate page.


I have the brands in mind for the Sodium Hydroxide (Mechanix), and Shellite / Naptha (Diggers). Just the Phosphoric Acid! So any advice would be great.

 

[SWIMfriend]

I do not plan to use Coca Cola anymore. But I do plan on trying Coca Cola at a later date to see what happens . As I have sead.

As for Defatting. I looked at Lextek, and it defats AFTER basifying. Where as Vovin's tek defats before basifying .

Also in Vovin's tek, step three called "Step 3: Reducing and Decanting"? I have not read much about this. And is not included in Lextek. Is it really a necessary step?

So defatting is basicly just adding Naphtha (Vovin tek suggests 100mL), in the case of defatting after an acid cook. Or after basifying , you add fresh acidic water with pH 4 (Lextek suggests 250mL). Then simply separating the Naphtha (that has the plant fats) from the TOP layer?

Just wanted to be 100% clear on what defatting is. I am sure defatting is not included in The DMT Handbook. There is a Recrystallisation process, it says it is a method of Purification. So is that counted as defatting?

Going through Vovin's tek. It seems much more advanced. Doing a defat after basifying would be fine?

As always, the members have The Nexus have given me vital information :d .

Vovin's tek is very straightforward and sensible. And yes, a defatting step using your acidified first extraction is simple and effective--you draw out everything that's able to dissolve in naphtha, which DOESN'T include your DMT, since it's a salt at this stage.

His step of "reducing and decanting" is first a matter of practicality: it's easier to deal with smaller volumes of solution, so "reducing" simply means heating your acid solution (already containing all the DMT extraction) until a significant portion of the water evaporates. "Decanting" refers to trying to leave behind whatever "jelled" or solid materials are left after refrigerating. This MIGHT help to clean things up a little...but it also might give up some of your DMT (especially if dealing with an unknown plant material). You could probably skip that step with little harm.

 

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Food grade vinegar is FINE. SWIM had used it in over a dozen A/B extractions and has always gotten great/flakey/white crystals...no sticky gump ever