Collecting bark without damaging trees

[we-are-one]

Hello,

I am new to this forum

After months and months of conversations with close like-minded friends who have experienced DMT, internet research and my own contemplation, I was left with a mind full of half truths, misconceptions and burning desire for the truth.

It was then I came across this forum. I have spent the best part of the day browsing, reading and absorbing some fantastic information.

I have many questions, of which I am sure will be answered in the fulness of time. The first is relating to my inexperience with forums. I have never joined a forum before as when researching other subjects I have quickly been put off by the speed of which threads deteriorate into ego-based irrationality and slander. I can not begin to explain how enlightening and refreshing it is to read through this forum. The passion and erudition shown in this forum is to the best of my knowledge unparallelled.

In short, I love it, "it does exactly what is says on the tin".

Moving on to my ineptitude with forums. In my reading today I came across a link to a post relating to the removal of bark from trees. Subsequently I cant find the link. If anyone could direct me to this post I would really appreciate it, also if anyone has any additional information on collecting bark ( specifically from the Acacia acuminata ), then I am keen to learn. At this stage I would like to understand environmentally "friendly" and sustainable ways of collecting bark. It seems somewhat unjust to damage or hurt something that has the potential to provide such enlightenment.

I am going to click post now, not sure whats going to happen then, or where the post will end up. I hope somewhere pertinent and well received.

 

[Vodsel]

Hello we-are-one,

good for you deciding to break your no-forums-rule. The Nexus is most likely the best reason and the best exception.

I'm not familiar right now with the post you mentioned about sustainable harvest of bark, but a quick use of the Search function will surely find the thread you mention.

But I can leave a link to a specific post, in the essential thread about Acacias by nen888, concerning A. Acuminata. Leaves and small twigs seem to be as good as bark in this species, so sustainable harvest might be easy peasy.

And Welcome to the Nexus.

 

[we-are-one]

Thank you Vodsel,

Great link, I cant wait to trawl through it.

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[Hieronymous]

Yeah as Vodsel stated, there's no need to take bark from an acuminata.

Although they are a very hardy tree once established, removing bark will result in killing the tree in many cases. The tree wouldn't die overnight either, it would die a slow torturous death. I wouldn't want that for any of my friends.

I wouldn't want the karma of killing something that would have outlived me hanging over my head when I smoked the spice that came from it either.

 

[Ilex]

As a general rule of thumb, when stripping bark you always want to take slivers along the length of the stem (rather than around - "girdling" which kills everything above it). I try not to strip more than 1/3 of the way around a branch, to allow the plant a chance to regrow.

 

[nen888]

^..seconding Vosdel and Hieronymous..

Acacia acuminata - phyllode content 0.8-1.2% DMT (narrow phyllode form)
..you don't need to touch bark..you can even collect recently fallen leaves..

..acacias really suffer from taking any bark (especially trunk)..leads to branch die back, and eventual complete slow death if enough taken..

 

[we-are-one]

Thank you everyone,

Given me a great insight into sustainable harvesting from the Acacia acuminata.

 

[we-are-one]

I have been out searching for the acacia acuminata. A combination of my lack of botanical knowledge and 38degree searing heat cut my search short at lunchtime.

I have located two trees that seem to come close to what i have heard described as acacia acuminata. I will post some pictures, any advice in identifying them would be well received.

 

[we-are-one]

The first two pictures are of one plant and the next three pictures are of another.

The first plant seems to fit the bill, I believe this plant is otherwise known as the "raspberry jam tree". when smelling the sap it does indeed smell fruity and raspberry like, I have not completely ruled out the fact I could be imagining this to be the case. Having said that it does smell distinctively different to the second plant.

The second plant has a smell that is not too dissimilar to cannabis. My attention was drawn to it due to the long brown seed pods which I have a recollection reading about at some point.

Am I hot? cold? warm?

I would also like to add that if the plant in the first picture proves to be what i am searching for, then I will not be extracting from it. The plant seems young and weak. I would just use the positive ID as a baseline for finding suitable sources.