Complete memory loss from cannabis?

[brilliantlydim]

So I used to smoke weed many years ago in school. Since then I have smoked it rarely here and there, but for the most part I'm not a big fan of its effects on me.

I start dating this girl, and we were getting pretty serious and comfortable with each other (this was a while ago, we are still together and very close now). Some how the subject of weed comes up, and she said she has never tried it but wanted to. I say that I have some stuff kicking around from a while ago when I smoked it last.

One night we are together and she says she wants to try it so I roll up a joint, nothing too crazy but I decent regular sized joint. We shared about half of it, but she probably smoked 3/4's of the half because I didn't really want to get to high while she was for her first time.

I wasn't expecting anything too crazy, and at first she liked it. It seemed to take a little bit to kick in for her, but once it did she was giggling and laughing and talking how people usually do when they get stoned. She though it was funny and she started loosing her train of thought while talking and thought that was funny too.

Next thing I know she completely loses her memory. She didn't know who I was, who she was, anything. She didn't remember her brothers and sisters or parents, what country she was from. In fact she is not even an english native speaker, but she forgot she knew another language. When I said some words in her native language she recognized them and was surprised that she knew what they meant.

I was crapping my pants because I never seen anything happen like this before, and although I was fairly confident that when she sobered up everything would come back, I wasn't 100% sure and that was a scary thought.

She was freaked right out and I had to convince her that I was her boyfriend and that everything would come back to her when the weed wore off. Finally I got her to go to bed, and slowly things started coming back to her. In the morning she was right back to normal and didn't ever remember what happened that night.


Anyone ever hear or see anything like this? I googled it and couldn't find anything.

TLDR : Got my girlfriend high for the first time, she completely lost short and long term memory. Everything went back to normal in the morning when the weed wore off.

 

[jamie]

That's pretty common with cannabis in my experience high in THC and THCV. Many people do not smoke it, or won't smoke anything with high THC/THCV, and still will take LSD and other psychedelics because of how powerful cannabis can be.

 

[PsyDuckmonkey]

Modern, high-potency cannabis is freaking bloody potent. (When in addition it's a low-CBD type -high-potency weed usually is-, that invites other problems of its own.)

When a regular cannabis user says they are rolling up "a decent regular sized joint", they often don't realize that it's approximately 20 times the dose a newb with no tolerance requires for a comfortable high. Also, body composition and personal biochemistry play a huge role in how potent drugs are, so tl;dr your regular can be someone else's megaton nuke to the brain.

I only smoke rarely, and one single pinhead-size chunk from a high-potency inflorescence is enough for me to get pretty high. I think your girlfriend likely had a serious OD from that joe.

 

[ducdevil]

This is, in fact, the very reason i have completely stopped ingesting cannabis of any kind. i am old enough to remember the days when one could smoke a joint or a bowl, and enjoy a lovely high. i used to just love it.

these days, with the emphasis on genetic improvement for potency, weed is now more like a narcotic. when one dabbles (sorry - pun intended) with concentrates, it gets even more serious. i have had severe depressive periods associated with heavy cannabis use; there was a period i was only using concentrates and i simply went mad. all of these symptoms disappeared with the cessation of usage. i've been off the weed for over a year now; never felt better.

for some, it's not a big deal; for me it was bad news. now, i look for medicines that bring me clarity, insight and revelation. not cloudiness, stupor and mania.

just my nickel thrown in...

peace

 

[Chan]

The potency of some stuff is just nuts, but vaporizers tame even the wildest modern weed, IME.

You can precisely control the intensity of the experience, without burning anything, and that greatly improves the experience. And your stash goes at least twice as far, so even a Volcano quickly pays for itself. And your space and clothes don't stink. And you can 'park the balloon' for a good long while if you wish, so there's no pressure to consume in one go.

And you can chuck tons of other things in there with the weed, or instead of, and make some really tasty blends, which obviously dilute the actives even further...

The last time I shared a joint, a couple of years ago, it was some vile Blue Cheese stuff and I almost passed out and threw up at the same time. Now, I can no longer even contemplate the idea of torching it, in any way, shape or form.

 

[pitubo]

Many people do not smoke it, or won't smoke anything with high THC/THCV, and still will take LSD and other psychedelics because of how powerful cannabis can be.

Me too.

these days, with the emphasis on genetic improvement for potency, weed is now more like a narcotic.

More like a psychotic, IMO.

there was a period i was only using concentrates and i simply went mad. all of these symptoms disappeared with the cessation of usage.

For years I smoked BHO, because apart from the butane, it cost me nothing. I smoked it all the time, without any problem. BUT.. I meticulously selected the cuttings to extract from. No THC bombs, only older classic strains with a good balance between THC and CBD. Using leaf instead of buds also makes a big difference.

OP, your GF likely OD'ed from a hefty dose of thermonuclear hybrid weed. From your report, it sounds like even you got a fair dose of panic attack.

 

[ducdevil]

You can precisely control the intensity of the experience, without burning anything, and that greatly improves the experience. And your stash goes at least twice as far, so even a Volcano quickly pays for itself. And your space and clothes don't stink. And you can 'park the balloon' for a good long while, so there's no pressure to consume in one go.

i agree - one can certainly moderate and modulate one's usage so that less cannabis is consumed. this, however, completely eliminates an important part of the "experience." the social aspect - the act of ingesting and sharing - the enjoyment of the gradual and slow onset of effects which is usually a very pleasurable part of it. even the rolling of the doobie - the repeated packing of the bowl...hell - the roach clip!!! LOL.... taking one hit and then calling it quits, at least for me, takes a huge part of the fun out of it, beyond the "high".

yet, i do see your point, and it's well taken. one can be responsible for how much one tokes. i am just a fan of the whole spectrum of experience, not just the physical effects.

cheers! and can you pass that reefer, man? 8)

 

[Chan]

Of course, Duc, a pleasure, here you go .....:::::!!!!!

The social aspect is pretty much identical. The balloon is very happy to be passed around just like a joint, and the vaping chamber appreciates care in selecting/combining/preparing what is placed inside it. Best of all, people who would shrink from a joint, usually because of the tobacco, quickly realise that it is...a very nice thing, and suddenly that funny looking machine is the the most amazingest thing ever.

I just picked up https://azarius.net/lifestyle/bookshop/psychedelic_books/phyto_inhalation/ and even though my German is quite weak, I am eating it up. All about all the other herbs to vaporise. Getting a cold? Bang some eucalyptus and oregano in, fixed! I have seen the future, and it is amazing. But I also remember the past, and running out of skins, and missions to dodgy petrol stations. And bongs that hit me like a gong. There is NO CONTEST! (But you can still fuck yourself up good, if you really want/need to...)

 

[Chan]

Oh, and you get to make CBD-rich butter/fudge with the used gear aka 'Volcano poo'. Try doing that with the contents of your ashtray...

Zero ash. Zero wastage. Maximum efficiency. Maximum gratitude. :thumb_up:

 

[ducdevil]

i have a volcano. i get it.

enjoy man. just too strong for me now. that's all.

peace

 

[Chan]

OK, but that wasn't clear from your post, as you only spoke about joints, so sorry for the superfluous door-stepping...

Have you ever tried lemon-balm? It's easy to grow (or buy), tastes great, and synergises very well with cannabis, so much so that you can vape a "bowl" of it with just a tiny bit of cannabis added, or not, as you prefer. Lemon balm is believed to act on GABA and consequently generates deep relaxation its own way.

The proof is: adding alcohol to this mix (even a beer) generates instant whitey for me, despite being many decades away from that kind of experience, ordinarily.

 

[brilliantlydim]

When a regular cannabis user says they are rolling up "a decent regular sized joint", they often don't realize that it's approximately 20 times the dose a newb with no tolerance requires for a comfortable high.

I am not even close to a regular smoker. I had probably smoked cannibus a handful of times in the 5 years previous to that night. I had smoked it quite a bit for a brief time in my earlier days, but that was 13 years earlier and even then it was more of a weekends thing.

The stuff I had was decent stuff, but I really don't think it was any kind of super duper potent stuff.

 

[DiMoiTou]

That's pretty common with cannabis in my experience high in THC and THCV. Many people do not smoke it, or won't smoke anything with high THC/THCV, and still will take LSD and other psychedelics because of how powerful cannabis can be.

:? "many", "common"... on what planet do you live jamie? :d
- I've never heard of a similar anecdote, except perhaps with deliriants such as Datura, so I would certainly not say it's common.
- I've never met anyone IRL willing to take psychedelics but not smoke cannabis (except for drug-screening motives).
- I'm pretty sure a survey would confirm that 99% of users consider LSD stronger than cannabis, unless comparing a low LSD dose with a high THC/V dose.

Interesting story OP, thanks for sharing.

 

[PsyDuckmonkey]

- I've never met anyone IRL willing to take psychedelics but not smoke cannabis (except for drug-screening motives).
- I'm pretty sure a survey would confirm that 99% of users consider LSD stronger than cannabis, unless comparing a low LSD dose with a high THC/V dose.

I do know at least 2 people who do take psychedelics, but do not smoke weed. Not because "it's too strong", but rather because they dislike the "stupefying" effect of weed. So I wouldn't say it's unheard of.

I personally love weed, but dislike these modern ~20% THC and no CBD strains in favor of medical and classic strains.

 

[ducdevil]

and another personal observation from the last few years before i quit:

i could only smoke/vape Indica. modern Sativas would induce an almost paranoid, panic-attack like feeling. i once passed out at a concert as i felt my heart-rate shoot up. in the medical community, they refer to Sativa as being "energizing." Ha! for me, i would get pretty freaked out.

Indica, for me, was where it was at. I'd rather have "couch-lock" than paranoid.

But, as i said, no more for me. I had my fun. I still think it should be legalized/decriminalized, but I don't partake anymore.

Yet, I love psychedelics.

 

[jamie]

That's pretty common with cannabis in my experience high in THC and THCV. Many people do not smoke it, or won't smoke anything with high THC/THCV, and still will take LSD and other psychedelics because of how powerful cannabis can be.

:? "many", "common"... on what planet do you live jamie? :d
- I've never heard of a similar anecdote, except perhaps with deliriants such as Datura, so I would certainly not say it's common.
- I've never met anyone IRL willing to take psychedelics but not smoke cannabis (except for drug-screening motives).
- I'm pretty sure a survey would confirm that 99% of users consider LSD stronger than cannabis, unless comparing a low LSD dose with a high THC/V dose.

Interesting story OP, thanks for sharing.

I go to a lot of raves and meet a lot of people who take LSD. At least half of the people I take LSD with do not smoke cannabis because of the panic it induces in them...and I live in one of the more well known cannabis centers.

 

[null24]

Y'all make me feel like a pot addict.
It's 9am here and I'm torching a fat bowl of 24%(alleged)% THC indica. Ah well, I forgot what I was gonna say...

 

[Psybin]

Y'all make me feel like a pot addict.
It's 9am here and I'm torching a fat bowl of 24%(alleged)% THC indica. Ah well, I forgot what I was gonna say...

Don't worry Null, I'm with ya! It's rolling up on 4:20 here in The Empire and I'm dabbing a fat snake as a toast with ya :thumb_up:

Cannabis always brings me back to home after I've lost my way, and makes the fibromyalgia not so bad.

OP, I have never heard of or experienced what you speak of, but can surely attest to cannabis' ability to induce amnesia. I remember some days when I first began smoking where I'd wake up the next day with no memory of how I got home or what my friends and I did after we rolled up. Then again, that stopped happening pretty quickly as tolerance went up. I feel like there is a toelrance threshold that you cross as you first begin to smoke on a regular basis, which you can't cross again if that makes sense. Like your tolerance never dips back below that threshold to your original baseline, because now your circuits have been rewired and that original baseline is no longer a possible state of your neurological system.

 

[brilliantlydim]

That's pretty common with cannabis in my experience high in THC and THCV. Many people do not smoke it, or won't smoke anything with high THC/THCV, and still will take LSD and other psychedelics because of how powerful cannabis can be.

:? "many", "common"... on what planet do you live jamie? :d
- I've never heard of a similar anecdote, except perhaps with deliriants such as Datura, so I would certainly not say it's common.
- I've never met anyone IRL willing to take psychedelics but not smoke cannabis (except for drug-screening motives).
- I'm pretty sure a survey would confirm that 99% of users consider LSD stronger than cannabis, unless comparing a low LSD dose with a high THC/V dose.

Interesting story OP, thanks for sharing.

I go to a lot of raves and meet a lot of people who take LSD. At least half of the people I take LSD with do not smoke cannabis because of the panic it induces in them...and I live in one of the more well known cannabis centers.

One of the reasons I don't smoke cannabis anymore. It really doesn't put me in a good head space. I get anxious about all the stuff I'm not doing in life that I should be, and that I'm incapable of doing any of it at that time because I am high. It also brings out my paranoia big time.

Not to say I can't handle it, its just not beneficial or enjoyable for me.

 

[null24]

Back atcha psybin!

The good ol Tim Leary said, in regards to LSD but we may as well apply it to marijuana here as well, and I don't know how relevant this is but what the hell – "there are three dangers to psychedelics: short-term memory loss, long-term memory gain, and I forgot what the other one was."