Conflict

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The premise is that we need conflict to progress and to defend ourselves from the universe. After who knows how many years of fighting just to survive on this planet. Stands to reason after we conquer the planet we have no one to fight but ourselves.

We fight on the world stage, on the street and even inside our own families.

Can we pass the burden of conflict to a different form of life? I am picturing robot wars on the grand scale in the designated warzone. Strict rules would apply for instance: not using any hardware that damages the planet.

We get to the point that no human ever kills another human and all diplomacy is solved with a mech war.

Is it ethical to do that to machines?

More importantly, has a higher form of conciousness already done that by creating us?

 

[Voidmatrix]

Is it ethical to do that to machines?

I feel like if these machines come with some amalgam of sentience then yes (as opposed to being remote controlled or something).

I guess it could also be considered wasteful.

Sounds constructive and productive though.

I think a somatic link up could make this even more satisfying psychologically, perhaps more therapeutic as well.

More importantly, has a higher form of conciousness already done that by creating us?

I immediately thought of Prometheus

One love

 

[Exitwound]

> The premise is that we need conflict to progress

My three cents:
1. Maybe we don't need conflict to progress and one day we (humanity) ascend on the next level of evolution and see our past ways as laughable: "funny how our primitive ancestors though <so-and-so> is unavoidable, when we can just do <this-and-that>"
2. Maybe next conflicts will get more and more immaterial, in terms of no physical confrontation, but economical/informational/psychological? (Already happened/happening to a degree, Cold War for example, modern cyber-warfare)
3. Maybe next obstacle/enemy will be of unimaginable scale and power, such as our fighting completely loses any sense and we switch to survival mode 3 body problem: for reference)


>More importantly, has a higher form of conciousness already done that by creating us?
imho: If you believe in "one-ness", then we are all parts of god-mind and in some sense created ourselves especially to experience existence in all forms and variations.

It's just feels so tangible and centered, because we are in this specific point of story and human life is very short, compared to eternity.
All things can hide in eternity and all outcomes. So there will be a dimension/time where we fight with war-robots for sure

 

[hugfortysix]

We get to the point that no human ever kills another human and all diplomacy is solved with a mech war.

Can't see that happening. One side will probably get annoyed about another using forbidden tech and then we end up fighting about it. Mass chemical castration would probably work better.

 

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imho: If you believe in "one-ness", then we are all parts of god-mind and in some sense created ourselves especially to experience existence in all forms and variations.

It's just feels so tangible and centered, because we are in this specific point of story and human life is very short, compared to eternity.
All things can hide in eternity and all outcomes. So there will be a dimension/time where we fight with war-robots for sure

One-ness, indeed. Suppose the one-ness requires conflict in order to fragment the self. Without conflict, the fragments find a mutual understanding and we are stuck with one-ness again.