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Swim followed lextek exactly. though they only used 100g of bark. did the three washes in about a liter of ph 4-5 wather/actic acid solution. did the defat and let the dish evaporate. i have some globs of goo that i guess is active according to some threads i have read, how would swim collect the in order smoke? Would it crystalize if swim just let it sit there for a few days? I was talking to someone in chat the other day and I'm pretty sure they sad that it would. this is just all so frustrating. :( any help would be appreciated.
 
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if you leave the goo for a few days it should slowly crystallise... mine took around 5 days to fully crystalise.

yeah lextek uses too much vinegar (and too much acacia) especially for distilled water which is already extremely sensitive to acids....and also WAY too much lye. 250 grams? come on.. if anyone ever spilt a brew with that much lye it could be extremely hazardous. Pretty lazy extraction which seems more focused on quantity rather than quality.
 
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nen888 said:
yeah, this would be about the 18th report of a failed acacia extraction with the Lextek..

it should be removed from the Nexus..!!

the Q21Q21 works..the Poormans' , Noman's works..the so-called nen-method works..

avoid the lextek!!!!
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I added a warning at the top of the Tek stating not to use it for Acacia Extraction.

Hopefully that will prevent this in the future.

Edit: Not sure how well the tek works for mhrb, if it's an ineffective tek, I can add a warning in there for that as well.

Edit again: Maybe adding some notes to the tek would be a better alternative instead of just saying "Don't use this for acacia extraction" since the tek was kinda designed for acacia extraction? Is it a species specific tek?
 
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acacian said:
if you leave the goo for a few days it should slowly crystallise... mine took around 5 days to fully crystalise.

yeah lextek uses too much vinegar (and too much acacia) especially for distilled water which is already extremely sensitive to acids....and also WAY too much lye. 250 grams? come on.. if anyone ever spilt a brew with that much lye it could be extremely hazardous. Pretty lazy extraction which seems more focused on quantity rather than quality.
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WAY too much bark, yes! Thanks Acacian. Nen hypothesised the other day "over-basifying" could form oxides or other compounds. Also, somewhere in the acaciinfo thread I can't find it was said not to use some of the solvents in that Tek or something? Something wrong about the defat stage? Nen?
 
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phyllode... how efficient do you think xylene is at pulling alkaloids? Could it get all of the alkaloids out with 2 pulls do you think?
yeah, I remember reading a thread on corroboree by a member who I am pretty sure wrote the lextek.. he seems under the impression that the acacia is unconditionally at his service and treats the bark like picking blackberries. Perhaps someday in another life he'll be reincarnated as an obtusifolia in a wildharvesting rife area and he will understand that the tree is not just there for his personal gain, but perhaps for its own journey too
 
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Well thanks everybody. Swim, after reading that noman's could work decided to give it a shot.

-75g powdered bark
-750 ml water
-75g sodium hydroxide

Waited for the water/lye to cool before adding bark. let that sit for 90 mins or so. then added the naptha. That was then left to sit for an hour or so. agitating every few minutes. first pull is in the freezer, cloudy already after only about 20. That's a good sign i guess. looks like a small layer of some type of white substance.
 
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I wouldn't do a STB method for acacia smokey0140 ... a lot of people have undesireable results. A/B seems more preferable.. plus you get to spend more time pouring your intention into the extract.. which is something i very much enjoy about longer more drawn out extracts
 
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smokey0140 said:
Well thanks everybody. Swim, after reading that noman's could work decided to give it a shot.

-75g powdered bark
-750 ml water
-75g sodium hydroxide

Waited for the water/lye to cool before adding bark. let that sit for 90 mins or so. then added the naptha. That was then left to sit for an hour or so. agitating every few minutes. first pull is in the freezer, cloudy already after only about 20. That's a good sign i guess. looks like a small layer of some type of white substance.
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Howd the first pull turn out?
 
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Well the STB did leave much to be desired. Got the famous clear goo everyone was talking about. it was active but i cant tell how much dmt/nmt there was. the marsfold's tek i used was much much better. just crystals, no oil.
 
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arctuis said:
swim is working on a custom A/B tek will post results and actual tek
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Thanks. Marsfolds actually works quite well. just used 2 mason jars instead of a wine jug. evapped about half the volume before freezing. was quite pleased
 
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smokey0140 said:
arctuis said:
swim is working on a custom A/B tek will post results and actual tek
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Thanks. Marsfolds actually works quite well. just used 2 mason jars instead of a wine jug. evapped about half the volume before freezing. was quite pleased
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ya i kept reading a/b tek for acrb i still have about 100 grams left and im planning on ordering a big supply aswell as abunch of ethno seeds to grow my own source being in the usa
 
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smokey0140 said:
Well the STB did leave much to be desired. Got the famous clear goo everyone was talking about. it was active but i cant tell how much dmt/nmt there was. the marsfold's tek i used was much much better. just crystals, no oil.
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I completely agree in regards to the A/B over STB statement. Confusa is not as "fat free" as Mimosa is and contains other factors making teks like Noman's a lot less effective.
 
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