Consensus on testing Cebil seed activity?

[freethinker]

The biggest problem with the bufo chase seems to be quality seeds. Vendor stock varies over time and going through an extraction process can be rather disappointing if the end result was sabotaged by poor seeds before it even began...

Thought it might be helpful to start a thread to collect and discuss SWIYs' methods of testing for seed activity.

So, throw it out there. What methods are there for testing activity and what are the advantages, and reliability factors of them?

 

[jamie]

all you have to do is dose them:wink:

Seriousily you never know until you try...this stuff is simply amazing when you get a good dose..I was having full blown bufotenine visions until 2am this morning.. the stuff I saw blew my mind.

Use a vendor others have used before..maya sent me quality seeds..
Now I have 114 grams of argentinian seeds from another vendor..need to test them still.

 

[soulfood]

I think most cebil is coming from the same place.

Also I think seeds that have a green inner matter aren't so good. You're looking for the yellowist of yellows with little discolouration. Also if the seeds are really good then 1 seed eaten should give minimal nausea and slight cev's.

The smaller thin seeds seem to be better also. The seeds that look bulky in my experience seem to almost be from a different tree altogether. A good vendor will list those as a different strain.

Also you can base and smoke 1 or 2 seeds as is.

 

[freethinker]

all you have to do is dose them:wink:

Seriousily you never know until you try...

Thanks but that involves doing the extraction process before knowing the seed quality (ie: potential waste of time). Looking for any methods people use to quickly determine if seeds are crap or active before putting time into an extraction.

Also you can base and smoke 1 or 2 seeds as is.

I assume the full bufo effects won't be present, so what sort of effect should one look for to indicate that the seeds are active? I assume nausea isn't telling enough because the seeds could have plenty of toxins but very low to no buffo and still give you nausea...

 

[Jorkest]

if you eat one to two seeds..you should feel effects from potent seeds...euphoria and happiness...

 

[freethinker]

Will have to try it. The bufo changa prep was attempted exactly as described on the first page to no avail (2nd bufo try with different seeds this time, second fail). The procedure is simple enough and was followed exactly so hence the motivation to find a reliable method for testing seed activity first before bothering anymore (just frustrated).

Thanks for the feedback people. Feel free to post any other methods for testing seeds.

 

[jamie]

I havenever had experience with week seeds..maybe I just got lucky I dunno..

But I find that bufo doesnt give up any real secrets until you work with it for a bit..so that should be concidered by those that wnat to work with it..

I guess it's possible that it works better for some than others..but I dunno, everyone is different, but not THAT different.

 

[freethinker]

Ya, anything really worth your while always takes a bit of work. Oh well, the resulting non bufo harmala/herb/weed ain't so bad to smoke anyway, but it sure is an elaborate way of making enhanced weed. Haha, maybe next time.

For what it's worth, 1 pinch size bowl (bufo-changa) was smoked with no more than weed/harmala effects. Several hours later a 1/3gm joint was smoked to see if it was just a quanity issue. Same effects, just weed/harmala. Will probably smoke the remaining 2/3gm all at once to see if anything is in there....

 

[soulfood]

I havenever had experience with week seeds..maybe I just got lucky I dunno..

I had bad seeds once, the first time I got some and they were really big chunky things. After a FASA precip, the extract was still a very dark green oily goo. It was completely unworkable. Ever since then I've always had good seeds.

 

[jamie]

^have you tried the seeds from Botanical spirit?..I have 114 grams of them I am going to test soon.

 

[soulfood]

They're pretty much on par with maya's 11 batch.

 

[jamie]

Cool those are the ones I have been using from maya..thanks a bunch:d

 

[ElusiveMind]

They're pretty much on par with maya's 11 batch.

Thanks for the info, SWIM was looking to buy some seeds from there but was wondering about potency.

SWIM agrees with Jorkest on testing, its the easiest way to know.

 

[69ron]

SWIM normally gets seeds from BBB, FV, and MAYA, and they’ve all been good, sometimes fantastic, but never bunk. But these things are natural and so they vary in potency, so it’s always possible to get weak seeds from any vendor. You have to test them.

Seed size varies a lot. Saying things like, “eat 1 seed and you should feel it”, can be very misleading. Some seeds are so tiny that 1 seed will do nothing orally, even if the seeds are very potent. Potency tests should be done by weight, not seed count.

 

[freethinker]

Any suggestions on a good test weight (casings included)? Method? Crush it up? Sublingual? Swallow?

 

[Jorkest]

try....200mg-400mg...that should do it...do the whole seed..because honestly im not sure where the bufo is!

 

[freethinker]

Many thanks.

 

[logos2012]

The aliens got their seeds for their first attempt from BBB. The attempt failed but they think this was due to burning the shit out of them in the oven or bad thermostat. These were not tested beforehand but one of the aliens did get a whiff of the smoke from the oven and started hallucinating for a bit.

They just got more from BBB and will attempt sometime soon. These will be tested by eating 1 seed or so. They will let you know.

 

[Fatcat]

I can confirm that putting a small amount of de-husked seed mater under your tounge is active, and amazing. 2 seeds gives me very very nice euphoria, some nausea, and im a little foggy, but they are deffinatly active, I have some in right now.

EDIT after more tests: I have tested this on 3 different occasions, the last of which was with a friend who agrees that they are active. As fractal stated in another thread, the effects mix AMAZINGLY with coffee. It gives me a subtle trippy edge to my normal coffee euphoria. I can't wait to try them orally with alcohol, let alone a smokeable extract.