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Could the DMT world be the real world?

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Society usually blocks us from seeing what is really behind the curtain, throughout the day & the night. When you say DMT world I am assuming that you mean - seeing things you cannot see while sober, I can agree with you on this because its kind of like pulling back the curtains of a play when you are on DMT. Kind of like the saying "everything is not as it seems"

Last night I took 4-5mg of Melatonin, I am confident when i say that when we dream it is a separate realm of activity, in one of the many dreams I had there were people I have never met and with people you can't just make up something like that, you cannot imagine a soul that does not exist. :thumb_up:
 
Both worlds are just as real as each other.
The only difference is a shift in vibration = different dimensions.
In my honest opinion at least.

Being a Fan of the great Nikola Tesla, i am understanding the fundamentals of the universe more and more clearly as everything ultimately is Energy, Frequency and Vibration like he said.

I think of physical reality as a primal computer game. We are here to grow, learn and experience(aka level-up) without having any memory or recall of out infinite potential or multi-dimensional self(Aka Level 1) and our prime directive(if you may) is to find that light again and remember who and what we are and where we came from so we can realize why we are here and what we have to do next.

If it wasn't for psychedelics and meditation it would of been near impossible.
 
i feel as if the dmt universe is somehow like a core reality that this current experience is but a satellite of, with many parallel universes all orbiting hyperspace
 
It could be that everything is the "real world," the 3D world, the spiritual world of the self, and seeming other realities that plants and dmt produce. I likes Terence mckenna's idea that the 3D world is the surface of a larger reality in a geometric sense.
 
I think there are two worlds. The material world, the world we live in, and the spiritual world. I think our ancestors were more connected with the spiritual world. Society today forces us to be materialistic, through advertising and other methods, and disconnects us from the spiritual world.
 
Some comments have touched on this already but my own hypothesis on the topic is such. We know of four dimensions, time being the fourth, and we live governed by the laws affecting them. Lets look at a two dimensional object, it cannot see or really comprehend three dimensions because that is beyond its realm of experience. I believe there is another dimension, a 5th where God/gods and spirits inhabit. Speaking from a Christian theological understanding of God, God is not affected by time or space, almost as if a three dimensional being is not affected by two dimensions. Using DMT, to achieve a breakthrough dose, it is plausible that we are traversing into this 5th dimension, as we have broken the bonds of our physical bodies.

With the analogy of a two dimensional object not being able to see the three dimensional world it seems narrow minded to rule out the notion of a spirit world merely because it does not fit within our very limited experience, or for that matter firmly believe in one.

Hopefully that makes sense, I have tried to keep it as brief as possible, much love!
 
fanphoenix said:
I think there are two worlds. The material world, the world we live in, and the spiritual world. I think our ancestors were more connected with the spiritual world. Society today forces us to be materialistic, through advertising and other methods, and disconnects us from the spiritual world.
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Exactly, there's only one world, it's just that most people only seem to be aware of a limited aspect of it
 
Exactly, there's only one world, it's just that most people only seem to be aware of a limited aspect of it [/quote]


The way i see it... there are many layers of worlds it just your choice which one you will visit...
 
Exactly, there's only one world, it's just that most people only seem to be aware of a limited aspect of it [/quote]


The way i see it... there are many layers of worlds.. it just your choice which one you will visit...
 
I was once told how to know the difference between what is real and what is not real. Anything that begins and ends, is born or dies, appears and disappears, is not real. The only thing that is real is consciousness itself. That rings true to me, just a thought!
 
id say that DMT shows us that our day to day perception of reality is baloney but imo dmt is created completely by the mind, in reality everything we experienced is experienced through our own awareness which is always subjective and never ovjective, so nothings actual real in the way we would believe them to be real, there is just awareness, knowing, being, feeling, all are experienced but theres never anyone actually experiencing them, theres just awareness of an appearance and then the afterhtought of a self being there, to explain it, but true reality cant be explained and we dont really have the tools to make any bold claims about whats real or not.
 
Comets said:
Society usually blocks us from seeing what is really behind the curtain, throughout the day & the night. When you say DMT world I am assuming that you mean - seeing things you cannot see while sober, I can agree with you on this because its kind of like pulling back the curtains of a play when you are on DMT. Kind of like the saying "everything is not as it seems"

Last night I took 4-5mg of Melatonin, I am confident when i say that when we dream it is a separate realm of activity, in one of the many dreams I had there were people I have never met and with people you can't just make up something like that, you cannot imagine a soul that does not exist. :thumb_up:
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the minds incredibly powerful, i think you may be underestimating it by saying that it cant create the appearance of other individuals, youve had thousands of encounters with people, many still remain in the deep, deep memory and dreams have the profound tendency to mix match things from all over to create a seemingly "new" world, but its just more appearances, what theyre based on is found neither in the real world or the dream world or the dmt realm
 
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