Cybs max ion tek --- Whats wrong?

[Crystalline]

Hello all,

Maybe some of the more professional and seasoned members around can help shed light on my dilemma. I have now completed my second extraction, the first with cyb's original tek and now with the max ion tek. I used 100g total with 20g ACTrB and 80g ACRB. I followed the steps near exactly as written out except I only did 4 pulls all combined into one dish. I let it all freeze and got for the first time something that resembled yellowish crystals (the dish in the picture is a small 6 cup pyrex dish it's probably about 6x10). However after drying they melted somewhat and when I went to scrape them up they turned into a light yellowish amber goo. There were also like 10 very very tiny pure white crystals scattered around.

Also, I'm unsure of what to do with goo and that's been the only end product I've come across. What have done was wipe the goo on a parsley leaf and drop it in the GVG. I tried to re-x the goo before and it seemed to just become trace amounts. Also my yields from the bark by weight seems to be very low.

Any idea what the problem could be and am I using the wrong method to deliver the product?
Thanks in advance for your input:d

 

[benzyme]

fad teks.

what it looks like is a supersaturated solution.
redissolve in a small volume of warm solvent (whatever solvent it is soluble in),
and slowly evaporate

 

[Crystalline]

I already scraped it up and tried to smoke the goo on parsley in the gvg. No real effect was noted from it.

What do you think the problem with it is?

 

[benzyme]

*shrugs*
they're inactives.

 

[cyb]

I'm afraid it sounds your bark is not what they say it is...or it's empty of alks.
Perhaps a mimosa hunt is in order.

 

[Crystalline]

I'm afraid thats most likely what it is and I still have about 1250g left of it

Mimosa seems to be an illusion to me, never once has it even seemed remotely possible to obtain for me. Maybe I'll have better luck now.

Thank you for your input guys

 

[Infundibulum]

I used 100g total with 20g ACTrB and 80g ACRB. I followed the steps near exactly as written out except I only did 4 pulls all combined into one dish....

Nexus Science, you shouldn't had done that, as any dmt in your naptha pulls might have been too dilute for any dmt to crash out. Try evapping your naphtha to 1/3rd - 1/10th of original volume and try freeze-precip again.

The fact that smokign it didn't work may be due to a million of reasons - how much was in there? Would you consider yourself as experienced in smoking dmt in general? Given that a.confusa also contains NMT, at various rations to DMT, you may just not had enough of dmt and/or NMT to give you any effect.

Also, considering that you got that much plant material left, you should not give up and try a few more things before deciding that bad bark was the culprit (that is anyway a bad catch-all explanation for extraction failures anyway...). If I were you I'd do a quick and easy STB ala Noman's tek using 100g and freeze-precipitate the 1st pull (without combining them this time!) to see if you can yield anything out of it. This should take you a couple of hours. As long as you confirm that you have a yielding plant material, you may then go and do one of the fad teks.

 

[Crystalline]

I'll try that with my next extraction, but I thought that with ACRB you can't do a STB and that you have to use an A/B style. And also I have no experience with dmt whatsoever, is the way I'm trying to use the goo correct?

Edit: I forgot to mention that after the freeze, I took the remaining naptha and let it evap outside. The result was more yellowish goo.


Many thanks,
~NS

 

[Infundibulum]

STB works with a variety of plant materials, I wonder why you think STB doesn't work with ACRB, is it hearsay or established fact?

Edit: I forgot to mention that after the freeze, I took the remaining naptha and let it evap outside. The result was more yellowish goo.

Well, there's your yield then! Goo from ACRB reportedly happens very often. Also check this:

..Enough GOO questions! read this.. - FAQ - All your basic questions and answers - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

how does the goo smell to you? you got any pictures of it?

And also I have no experience with dmt whatsoever, is the way I'm trying to use the goo correct?

making changa will definitely help and will make weighting much more reliable. As for smoking, you have to just practice.

 

[Crystalline]

There's not much goo and it got a little rained on when I left it outside by accident but I'll get a picture in a few minutes, how would one go about making changa out of goo because I had .15 of goo before that I tried to dissolve in hot naptha and only about half of it did dissolve and then when that was evapped the goo seamed to have disappeared.

The goo smelled of new shoes, very distinctly.

 

[hobobrown]

Acacia alk content varies among suppliers. I went through 2 before finding bark that had great yields. The other 2 were horrible. If you feel you have the teks down to a science, then try to extract from a bigger amount. The results might change a little. Once I extracted from 500g of AC, the dmt content was so concentrated that it actually cannibalized the goo and dried it out completely. I knew it did because I saw a thick layer of goo along with white crystals and a waxy white substance after pouring off the naphtha. So it can work both ways.

I'd do a lot more research and be patient. I spent months reading before I attempted an extraction. Most of the questions you asked have already been answered plenty of times. Do keyword searches on the forum to find great info on your issues.

Also, I don't think the goo should smell like new shoes. Should be more of a sweet floral scent in my opinion. But everyone's sense of smell could be different.

 

[form is emptiness]

My recommendation before you toss your based solution: add a samll amount of naphtha, put the closed container in a bucket of hot tap water, cover with plastic bag and towel, leave overnight - but give it a good shake once in a while.
Using this approach, 5 pulls yielded 1g white and 0.5g yellow from 100g purple dye, and I suspect there is at least another 0.3g in the based solution. I have minimal experience so can't say whether the yield was due to 'max ion', or leaving each pull over night in a warm water bucket, or good quality material.

 

[Crystalline]

Went to take a picture of the dish but there were just one or two gooy spots that were very tiny. I already disposed of the basified solution, I could attempt that next time.
I believe that my ACRB is most likely bunk bark but I'm not sure about the ACTrB which is still have almost a kilo left. Is it worth my time to try to extract from ACTrB alone or just try to get new ACRB?

Thanks everyone,
~NS