Day after depressed mood

[Trick Tickler]

Hi, I want to share my first experience of smoking DMT after ingesting harmalas extracts.

Firstly I would like to say that I'm new to DMT and all my experiences of smoking it on it's own are positive. I have been experimenting in and off with psychadelics since 1989 so I know not to do them if my headspace isn't tickety boo.

So yesterday in preparation of smoking DMT I for the first time took some harmalas extract on a clean system, I don't smoke tobacco and I had not smoked any cannabis for over two weeks and no alcohol for three weeks as well has being free of any medications.

I ate 200mg of harmalas extract at 10pm after about 30mins I felt nothing but after an hour I felt sluggish so I decided it was time for the DMT. I smoked about 15mg DMT so not much at all, the onset wasn't harsh as you would image as I was just dipping my toe in as a test.

I felt really tired so i decided not to smoke anymore and I was having a nice feeling anyway so I went to bed. In my bed I could see interesting visuals with eyes open or closed nothing hectic not warping through time just slow evolving patterns sometime geometric and computerized looking, or sometimes more natural organic type shapes.

My mood was good I was looking for guidance to some extent and I am in a period of healing after alcoholism and associated depression. I have found that DMT has been good for illuminating problems that need to be addressed in my life but in a guiding suportive way not an in yer face anxiety. On this occassion the DMT experience was true to form and did not let me down, I was calm relaxed and I could feel problems drift away as I ventured the realm. This I enjoyed for about 2-3hrs.

However!! I had real problems sleeping after the effect wore off and today I feel low it took me two hours to get out of bed, absolutely no energy. Now the low mood could be down to either messed up biorythm due to sleep distruption, the harmalas, the harmalas and DMT combination or just coincidence, but definately a derpressed mood rather than just waking up a bit grumpy.

I will revisit this experimentation as the actual high was very pleasant and the depressed mood will be short lived of which I am positive. If anyone has any comments or similar experiences then please share as it might help me make better decisions on future experimentation.

 

[Pharmer]

"I have been experimenting in and off with psychadelics since 1989 so I know not to do them if my headspace isn't tickety boo"

Why were you tired?
To me, this sounds like you have had issues in the past and recognize them (this is great and very much needed!). You have good sense to deal with things before taking substances but dmt is different and does not accept anything but total healing....it can be a great helper in this way.

Dmt has a way of forcing us to deal with issues we undermine or keep pushing down or even problems that we need to revisit for a tiny reason. Being sad/depressed/can't get out of bed has happened to me many times and I have had had some big issues attached that I was unwilling to deal with. Or sometimes these issues are just something I need remember more clearly or are attached to something else in my life. Most of the time the answer is only half of the lesson..

Nothing in life is only positive. Maybe dmt is just showing you this even among a good experience.

 

[Trick Tickler]

Thanks for your input i've noted your experiences and will consider them when I experiment further, which won't be until I'm prepared.

Why did I feel tired? Well it could be one of or a combination of the following.

It was getting late(10pm).
I have a disposition with MAOI class drugs.
Caffeine lag, I drink a lot of tea and coffee but had not that evening as I thought milk would be bad.
Coincidence.
Superstition.
Bad luck :?

The Tiredness come on before smoking the DMT which is why I smoked only a small amount.

The adjustments I'll make next time will be to experiment much earlier in the day when energy levels are naturally higher.

 

[concombres]

Harmalas have a tendency to mess with my sleep patterns. DMT on its own, not so much.
Did you have any caffiene afterwards?

I have found that not enough sleep coupled with not eating enough & lots of caffiene can cause me to get into bad moods sometimes. One day it may cause me an anxiety attack, the next it may just make me grumpy, & yet another it will make me depressed until I am well rested & have eaten well.

Also, caffiene withdrawal can make waking up very hard. It has never caused depression in my case, but maybe it is multiple factors at play here.

I often do not eat much the day of or after harmalas & sleeping patterns are disrupted, IME that has caused depression sometimes & coupled with caffiene withdrawal it could be very hard to get out of bed.

 

[Trick Tickler]

Harmalas have a tendency to mess with my sleep patterns. DMT on its own, not so much.

Glad it's not just me

Did you have any caffiene afterwards?

Nope.

I have found that not enough sleep coupled with not eating enough & lots of caffiene can cause me to get into bad moods sometimes. One day it may cause me an anxiety attack, the next it may just make me grumpy, & yet another it will make me depressed until I am well rested & have eaten well.

Umm OK thanks for your reply I'll add your experience which sounds similar to mine and cross reference it with future findings and input from other accounts in working towards isolating the problem.