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Electric Kool-Aid

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hm. I guess you can only find out what it's like by going... try to get 45 mg in one hit held for 30 seconds and I think you'll see how un-definable a thing it is.
 
from reading peoples journey reports on here it seems to me that 1 persons breakthrough is anothers medium dose.

I think people get to hung up on breakingthrough and to me it seems they miss the absolutely glorious megatasticness provided by all levels of the DMT experience.

i once read a quote on here which was something similar to....

if you wonder if it was a breakthrough, then it probably wasnt.

i guess if you still wanna definately make sure you "breakthrough" then just smoalk and smoalk and smoalk and make sure there is someone there to grab the pipe.

Having said that, i know nothing and you probably dont wanna listen to me anyway:wink:
 
from reading peoples journey reports on here it seems to me that 1 persons breakthrough is anothers medium dose.

I think people get to hung up on breakingthrough and to me it seems they miss the absolutely glorious megatasticness provided by all levels of the DMT experience.

Amen to that!
You know, everyone wants to be experienced. Be part of the "DMT elite".
Tons of people are so proud to be sooo individualistic, to have discovered this "secret" and want their share of it. Fine. Just don't make it part of your personal game and use it to force a certain kind of identity upon others.

So ridiciolous.

A while ago someone on here said "Well, i'm a bit late to DMT but here i am!"

Late? How can you be "late" for a drug?

That's like saying "Well, i just recently discovered power drills, so i'm a little late, sorry...let's start drilling!"

It's not about the tool. Never the tool..never never never.

Also not about "achieving".

...but finding value in how you RELATE to what you've achieved.

You've had a breakthrough? Congrats. Who cares ?
 
A breakthrough is what occurs when suddenly...

people actually start using the search.

That my friend...

would be a breakthrough.


If you are still yet to soil yourself, smoalk moar
 
A 'breaktrough' is just a term I got hooked on from reading about it. If I smoalk 40+ mgs, I usually flop down, and am being shattered soo hard I can't comprehend what's going on, then I forget the trip right away usually. I found my sweet spot is 35 mgs. where I can actually think still and get something out of the experience.
When I first started using dmt I was all hung up on this 'breaktrough' thing too. Now I think it makes it more like a contest for new users. So if I refer to breaktrough in a post, that just means I had an extremely beneficial experience that I got something out of.
 
It's just a term that holds no value, all experiences are different.

If I were to consider it something though, it would be an experience so strong that you leave your body completely.
 
Sky Motion said:
It's just a term that holds no value, all experiences are different.

If I were to consider it something though, it would be an experience so strong that you leave your body completely.

but thats exactly what it means.. how can you say it hold no value??

i understand it as an experience where you have ZERO connection to the physical world, the last thread of connection to your physical body has been snipped.

i think its pretty strait forward.. dont know why you guys are saying its just a meaningless saying..

sure its subjective based on the person but meaningless i think not..
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you have to ask if you broke through or not you didn't. It's really as simple as that, its something that is so overwhelming obvious when it happens that you'll have no doubt. Questioning if you broke through or not is like asking if you had an orgasm during sex: you don't need to ask, you'll just know when it happens.

Now the real thing is, if your like me and breakthrough before you know what a breakthrough is, it's incredibly peculiar and can leave you in a state of shock for an indefinate period of time. I spent weeks trying to understand what happened to me, whether I had died and came back to life, was abducted by aliens, or whatever; I really had no idea. After finding the nexus and hearing about the breakthrough experience I finally at least had a name to call whatever it was that happened, however even having a name does little for me to be able to explain what it is.

I'll tell you this much though, it CAN feel like your dying. Our natural response to feelings like this is to move in the opposite direction of them, to run from them, fear them. However to really get a breakthrough, you sort of have to go with it, let yourself 'die', so to speak. The more you resist it, the more unpleasant it can be and if you do resist it, you probably won't breakthrough. I guess that's the best advice on it I can give you, you need to know and trust what's happening and completely give yourself over to it, even if your mind is screaming at you that you're dying.

Happy travels :)
 
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