Didn’t breakthrough. Any advice??

[CokFLHX]

Hello!

So I tried it!

I have mixed feelings. It came on strong. The taste is…… unique.
It’s like the world broke apart. No coherent thought. I liked it and found it extremely unsettling at the same time.

I’ve heard talk of a tunnel, a waiting room, and breakthrough.

I’m really not sure, but maybe I experienced the tunnel.

They weren’t kidding about the difficulty of taking that last hit.

I made a cartridge. .5g demitri mixed with .5ml 100% PG. rated 1.2ohm and no vaped it at 3.2V.

Am I not getting enough to breakthrough? Does this sound familiar at all to anyone? To be honest if that was all there is to this, I don’t think I like it.

I can’t see how there could be any spiritual aspect to the experience I had. Just felt like physics broke. There was nothing in it to take away, ya know?

I’ve parts on the way to make a mesh rda. Maybe that’ll help.

I will know if I breakthrough, right? I probably didn’t get enough to send me there.

I dunno. A part of me is kinda like, damn. All that work for this?? lol.

I just need to try try again, huh?

Thanks in advance for taking the time to reply and give what advice you can. This site is an amazing resource!

 

[Woahahah]

Hi!

I'm not a seasoned psychonaut by any means but I feel like I could offer some help.

Just a year ago I was going through the same stuff you were of trying to breakthrough on DMT.

For my first 6 or so trips, spanning across a ~2 week period, I thought I experienced breakthroughs. I think I was taking 20-40mg hits. I saw quite intense open and closed eye visual hallucinations and was definitely in an altered state of mind. This is probably where you're at right now.

I took a break from smoking dmt, then one day decided to really go for it and try a huge dose. I smoked 70mg and was immediately blasted into hyperspace. Like complete ego death and everything, became the universe itself like woahhhh.

Trust me, you'll know for sure when you've gotten there.


A few things I think will help you:

- Main thing is dose. Instead of vaping out of a cart and estimating your doses every time, it's a lot easier and safer to dose every trip individually by just placing pure DMT on a mesh. Get a milligram scale, there is no other way around it. Breakthrough threshold is gonna be around 40-50mg for most people.

- I've never tried using a vaporizer, I used The Machine and it worked fine for me. I had no "difficulty taking the last hit" at all. If you get the technique right the hits are gonna be really smooth, and you can completely vaporize up to 70mg with 2 big rips. Here's an amazing tutorial on building and using one:

- Make sure your DMT is pure. If the stuff is brown and gunky you're gonna be coughing it all out and it's horrible. Pure DMT is WHITE!

- Take a break and try again. Maybe coming back to it in a month will help!

- Make sure you're somewhere comfortable, preferably with a trip-sitter.

Stay safe, you'll totally be able to breakthrough!

 

[Voidmatrix]

DMT is a crapshoot: you never know what you're going to get.

Don't worry about what "category" your experience fits into based on other reports that you've read. Just keep it up and continue to see what happens.

It is possible you didn't get enough to breakthrough. It's also possible it just didn't happen that time (if it didn't happen). Doing the emesh method will help you to dial in your dosage. Juices can be a little more precarious.

Also consider your subjective sensitivity to various molecules and adjust from there.

Also, try to not to expect much from your experience until you've gotten some journeys under your belt. The more you want and/or expect a "breakthrough," the harder it may be to actually get there.

You may not discover the "spiritual" potential of something until you've become familiar with and understand it to a sufficient degree.

One love

 

[CokFLHX]

Hi!

I'm not a seasoned psychonaut by any means but I feel like I could offer some help.

Just a year ago I was going through the same stuff you were of trying to breakthrough on DMT.

For my first 6 or so trips, spanning across a ~2 week period, I thought I experienced breakthroughs. I think I was taking 20-40mg hits. I saw quite intense open and closed eye visual hallucinations and was definitely in an altered state of mind. This is probably where you're at right now.

I took a break from smoking dmt, then one day decided to really go for it and try a huge dose. I smoked 70mg and was immediately blasted into hyperspace. Like complete ego death and everything, became the universe itself like woahhhh.

Trust me, you'll know for sure when you've gotten there.


A few things I think will help you:

- Main thing is dose. Instead of vaping out of a cart and estimating your doses every time, it's a lot easier and safer to dose every trip individually by just placing pure DMT on a mesh. Get a milligram scale, there is no other way around it. Breakthrough threshold is gonna be around 40-50mg for most people.

- I've never tried using a vaporizer, I used The Machine and it worked fine for me. I had no "difficulty taking the last hit" at all. If you get the technique right the hits are gonna be really smooth, and you can completely vaporize up to 70mg with 2 big rips. Here's an amazing tutorial on building and using one:

- Make sure your DMT is pure. If the stuff is brown and gunky you're gonna be coughing it all out and it's horrible. Pure DMT is WHITE!

- Take a break and try again. Maybe coming back to it in a month will help!

- Make sure you're somewhere comfortable, preferably with a trip-sitter.

Stay safe, you'll totally be able to breakthrough!

Okay. So a little more info. When I extracted it it was orange kinda.

I did a water wash that resulted in nice, pretty white crystals. I can send a picture of what it looked like. I think it was good quality.

After some time thinking on it it may not have been the best setting. The people Inwas with, bless thier hearts, were just excited. I remember it seemed like physics broke apart. I remember opening my eyes and all three of them were jabbering away at me. I’m sure they were asking what happened. If Inwas okay or if I liked it. I couldn’t understand a single word. I knew who they were and what they were babbling about. I even found it kind of funny, but they might as well have been speaking Mandarin.
As SOON as I came out of it I had the feeling that this isn’t the right place to do it.

It’s didn’t scare me, I don’t think. Although I did think for awhile that I may not ever do it again.

That feeling has since passed.

I’ve a friend who will know not to jabber at me as soon as I open my eyes coming to stay with me for a week or so. I think I’ll try again in a more comfortable setting with a more experienced buddy. (Not experienced with this but a psychonaut non the less. lol)

Does the taste stay as intense? I don’t know if it’s unpleasant or not. I’ll never go into a shoe store the same again. That’s for sure.

I know this is running long, but I would love to hear more people’s accounts if thier first time, or if they have had similar experience as me. To those of you who have weighed in, I thank you. Al information helps.

It’s intense, isn’t it? A little fear is a healthy thing when you’re dealing with such powerful medicine. Okay last thing….

I can’t put my finger on it. But when it was all broke apart I can remwmber my thoughts spinning incoherently not forming anything solid, just like spitting random ideas. Does that sound familiar.

Feel like my mind explored concepts of morality, and the more I think on it the more I feel like there was something there but everything was so jumbled I couldn’t grasp it. I could t even think about grasping it if that makes sense but whatever it was, it’s either not real and just my mind in the drug or there is some knowledge there. Either way I feel like that knowledge might just scare the shit out of me?

I’m going to try again, and I’m sure this feeling is common. You would have to be about half insane to jump into that which inexperienced and not come out a little shook.

I wasn’t that deep I’m convinced. But still when you’re in it, you’re not entirely sure you’re gonna come back and that can be scary. When I came out and could stand up I had to go outside. Get away. Get someplace quiet. I went and sat on the porch steps and my buddies dog who is harmless but talks to people barked at me and I like to come out of my skin. I got up and ran back in the house like a scared little kid. Ha. I wasn’t still pretty fucked up.

This is ridiculous long. But it helps to write it.

Okay. Enough is enough. I guess tell me if you guys read any red flags in this post. Haha. I think everything im feeling is normal. I’ll update after I try again, with more of the same, success at breakthrough, or maybe the jibberings of a man driven insane! Jk. Guess that’s prob not very funny…

 

[Orbtr]

I know this is an older thread, and hopefully your journey has clarified many of your thoughts and questions.
Set and setting- SO important. Somewhere comfortable, I like dark and trip hard with my eyes closed (even use an eye mask sometimes).
My tripsitter sits in another room.

Music- finding the right music really helps to keep my trip tripping. Presently using a 15min meditation YouTube track that is really working with a 20mg hit.

Recently, I've discovered starting with a smaller dose (10mg) helps to ease any pre trip anxieties and helps propel me into the trip im looking for when I do a 2nd hit of 20mg 30-40mins later. Last night I started with 20, and it 'didn't work' as I'd hoped, but the 2nd round of 20 was awesome.

Happy tripping.