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The learning never ends with Maestra Jurema. I have come to realize, with this method it's possible to inhale TOO QUICKLY, and cold vapor doesn't have as much of an effect. I have now revised my method as follows:

-TCR mode calibrated by cotton swab method
-36.7W (device is rated for 37 but I've burnt through a couple heaters using this setting. slightly lower wattage seems -to avoid this problem)
-Set temp to 440F

Load the desired dose and melt at the minimal heat that will melt it. device is now ready. Are you?

When you are ready, preheat in stages- I highly recommend pre heating- it only takes about 10s. I let it get to 200F the first time, release the button, give it a couple seconds to rest, then push it up to 300F. Your spice is now fully liquid guaranteed to be evenly hot and good to go. This prevents uneven heating which sometimes causes popping and spaltter upon inhale. This is not desireable, some of the dose will end up on the glass and not vaporize, and hot dmt splatter in your mouth is very unpleasant. You will notice it will start to vaporize when the display shows about 320, even without inhaling. Relax, that vapor isn't going anywhere.

What I've come to realize is, inhaling now, especially a big one-hit draw, cools the chamber too much. SO- when you're ready, double-click the button for autofire mode, and let it go till "temp reached". Might want to put a finger over the mouthpiece to prevent vapor escaping. I did some experimentation, sacrificing some spice to the gods of science if you will, and there will be little or no burning at this temperature even if you let it cook for some time. liquid spice in the bowl evaporating provides it's own cooling effect. The only potential for significant burning is if you go slow at the end of the inhale when there is very little left in the bowl. Nearly impossible to keep tabs on in the state you'll be in so here's procedure-

-Autofire and wait for "temp reached" on the display. Try to time your breathing so you have exhaled and ready to inhale at this point. Let it cook for a second or two until you see lots of vapor forming, then begin to inhale. Slow and steady wins the race here, a big inhale will produce lots of vapor, but it will be cold vapor and won't absorb as well. Hot vapor is thin and whispy like steam, cold vapor is thick and resembles a cloud of cotton candy. You want the steam.

-Ideally, you will continually modulate your inhale to be just fast enough to continue to produce vapor but no more. If you do this right you will get it all in in one inhale, without a big hard draw. In practice, this is easier said than done, because effects will come on strong well before you're done.

--"Autopilot": Once you have reached temp and there is billowing vapor in the chamber, start to inhale, SLOWLY. Count to 10, then give it the biggest rip you can to finish. Logic being by this point there is very little left anyway and it is already quite hot. Seems to work well.

Hold your inhale for another 10 count, then *smile* (seriously, it sets the mood!) and don't forget to unclench your b****le and whatever happens...remember to keep breathing. ;)

-There will be some tan/brown color residue on the bowl , this is ok, don't sweat it. Might have to do with how much oils are left in your extraction. Just clean with isopropyl between doses to avoid burning the residue.

I have done up to 50mg in one hit with this method. Which was too much.
 
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Just received the Vortex top and, despite the blurb saying it fits the V5, it will only sit on top of the thread, not over it. Am I doing something wrong or are you just supposed to hold it on top when you fire up? Or did they send me the wrong one? Thanks.
Sounds like the wrong one. Mine fits on just like stock it's just taller . I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "sits on top of the thread, can you post a picture? I'll post one of my setup later tonight
 
The black residue is normal, probably a trace amount of oxidized DMT. You can take a tissue paper, dampen it with isopropanol or acetone and clean it up, it's pretty easy. Yes the airflow is pretty restricted, which makes it impossible to take even 20mg in one go, but you have to somehow bring yourself to take two tokes. The glass vortex thing may make it better, but I haven't tried it myself yet.
That is correct, airflow is much freer on the glass cap, I've inhaled up to 50 mg in one hit
 
im using this setup with a non dna lost vape thelema. Unfortunately it has no autofire and shuts off after 10 seconds so I have to pulse the fire button. Is anyone using a similar mod without autofire who might have some advice on settings?

I’ve only used it once with about 15mg and I think I got lucky because damn it was the most perfect hit I’ve ever experienced. So much better than eliquid imo
 
im using this setup with a non dna lost vape thelema. Unfortunately it has no autofire and shuts off after 10 seconds so I have to pulse the fire button. Is anyone using a similar mod without autofire who might have some advice on settings?

I’ve only used it once with about 15mg and I think I got lucky because damn it was the most perfect hit I’ve ever experienced. So much better than eliquid imo
i am using it with aegis solo. i am using setting described here above. preheat untill it starts to vapourise, and hit again and hold... usually within 10 sec, all should be gone. sometimes it needs second hit.

in what way you find it better then eliquid?
 
i am using it with aegis solo. i am using setting described here above. preheat untill it starts to vapourise, and hit again and hold... usually within 10 sec, all should be gone. sometimes it needs second hit.

in what way you find it better then eliquid?
Thanks so much for the advice 🙏. An I prefer how clean it felt, mind you I have only used freebase only once. But it was smooth as butter, and the effects instant.

I have been using carts before this, and I find them nice for a session or building up intensity, but they become a little harsh for me.

I have taken a couple of hits from a sub ohm with liquid and it was also pretty smooth. So ultimately I think I’m working towards using a sub ohm for sessions, the v5 for breakthrough and the cart for the club (while rolling on md I love to take tiny hits while dancing)
 
Hi,

I have tried several times to vape on the following settings with both dmt and 5-meo-dmt, but I don't feel any effects. In the past I was able to get effects with Wotofo Profile and Aegis Solo 3, but I don't remember the settings. Can you help, what am I doing wrong?

Equipment: Thelema DNA 250C with Divine Tribe V5 XL (no SIC insert, no Vortex cap, no terp pearls)
TCR: 0.00200
Power: 37W
Temperature: 175C, 180C, 185C, 190C, 195C
Preheat 6s, inhale 10s, hold 15-20s
Dose: 0.050g (dmt) or 0.015g (5-meo-dmt).

Peace
 
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Hi,

I have tried several times to vape on the following settings with both dmt and 5-meo-dmt, but I don't feel any effects. In the past I was able to get effects with Wotofo Profile and Aegis Solo 3, but I don't remember the settings. Can you help, what am I doing wrong?

Equipment: Thelema DNA 250C with Divine Tribe V5 XL (no SIC insert, no Vortex cap, no terp pearls)
TCR: 0.00200
Power: 37W
Temperature: 175C, 180C, 185C, 190C, 195C
Preheat 6s, inhale 10s, hold 15-20s
Dose: 0.050g (dmt) or 0.015g (5-meo-dmt).

Peace
The vaporisation point of freebase DMT (N,N-Dimethyltryptamine) is approximately 160-170°C (320-338°F), based on consistent reports from vaping communities and user experiences on forums like DMT-Nexus. This is the temperature range at which DMT transitions from a liquid to a vapour without combusting, allowing for efficient inhalation. However, when using devices like the Divine Tribe V5 XL cup with a JAC Vapour Series B DNA75 mod, as in your setup, the target temperature is often set higher (e.g., 440-450°F/227-232°C) to account for heat loss due to airflow, the quartz cup’s thermal mass, and the glass mod’s cooling effect. Combustion should be avoided above ~470-500°F (243-260°C), as it degrades DMT and produces harsh vapour.

So you list the highest temperature of 195°C, which is too low
 
Thank you @VoyagerGrey!

DT V5 with glass tube, Geekvape Solo, TCR on T195 36W 195c and let it build up (prime 3-5x) to get to 150/160c before toking is close to perfect!
This setup might quickly go to my preferred ROA.

Running Power mode on 37w works as well, but not as perfectly as TCR.
Would compare it to e-mesh because of the error proneness and it needs more experience or luck to hit the exact temperature.
In Power mode you need 3-4x warm-up burst of 5-7 sec, and once you see a cloud building up you start toking. It was hotter to the throat, burned maybe.
 
Could someone here explain what should be left in the cup after vaporisation? Last night I had a big rip and it seemed to work great, didn't feel like a typical "i burned it" trip, however there was definitely some black material left in there. Is this normal? Or should the literally be nothing left after? Also feel free to dm me a picture so I can compare , I would really appreciate that!
 
I don't think some left over black carbons matter if the trip was good and the hit didn't feel burned, you might have just picked the perfect settings!
 
I don't think some left over black carbons matter if the trip was good and the hit didn't feel burned, you might have just picked the perfect settings!
Thanks for your reply, appreciate it! Im just asking so that I can try to find the perfect setting, but I don't really know what to expect. If I did it perfectly would there be absolutely nothing left, just clean? Or would i have to still clean it? I just tried it again on 170 and it worked really well as well, I think better than the first time. But still black stuff in there.
 
I'm not in the position to answer that with any confidence or science, BUT as with e-mesh and d-juice you'll have residues left overs as well.
There is interaction between DMT, oxygen, moist, anything in the atmosphere, and not every molecule will be at the same temperature so some might burn whilst others condensate to the glass.

I can not imagine there would be nothing left even with the best possible technique and lab grade x-tals.
 
I'm not in the position to answer that with any confidence or science, BUT as with e-mesh and d-juice you'll have residues left overs as well.
There is interaction between DMT, oxygen, moist, anything in the atmosphere, and not every molecule will be at the same temperature so some might burn whilst others condensate to the glass.

I can not imagine there would be nothing left even with the best possible technique and lab grade x-tals.
This is really helpful, thank you. I will be content knowing that a little bit of residue is normal and expected. Really appreciate this!
 
I'm not in the position to answer that with any confidence or science, BUT as with e-mesh and d-juice you'll have residues left overs as well.
There is interaction between DMT, oxygen, moist, anything in the atmosphere, and not every molecule will be at the same temperature so some might burn whilst others condensate to the glass.

I can not imagine there would be nothing left even with the best possible technique and lab grade x-tals.
Oh one other question... are you using a dtv5?
 
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