Good evening fellow space cadets, ive tried searching for an answer to this question but unfortunately have come up with a blank so here i am to pick your brains, basically im wondering if anybody has any experience of being under the influence of alcohol and then taking dmt? Good, bad or indifferent? As a Scotsman i like a beer, a cultural norm i made peace with many many years ago, probably to my livers detriment haha anyway my curiosity on partaking in dmt while under the influence of several beers beers stems from how i feel before taking dmt with no alcohol involved. My pre trip ritual always consists of about 10 minutes of clearing my mind and basically chilling the fuck out to almost the point of falling asleep, but there is always that slight tinge of apprehension and anxiety beforehand that i just cant seem to lose, however when a fair few beers deep and the urge to a take a trip enters my mind i feel no anxiety or apprehension whatsoever, so is it advisable to go ahead and take the plunge or ignore those drunken thoughts?
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dmt + alcohol = good/bad?
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Exactly - weed + psychedelics can contribute to delusional thinking, and even psychotic breaks in some people.
While I've also enjoyed the combo myself on more than one occasion, it's at least useful to be aware of the possibility of adverse psychological effects, and that's also me speaking from experience here with regard to delusional thinking.
Agree , I enjoy pretty much the combo myself as well but it should be taken with caution due to the overwhelming state it induces 
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The same applies to Shrooms + Rue ; I had only one experience and that was wild
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I grew "Makilla Gorillas" and they're so STRONG ... I didn't dare taking Rue yet but weed was great last night for sure
Feeling exhausted and weak today though
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.The same applies to Shrooms + Rue ; I had only one experience and that was wild
.I grew "Makilla Gorillas" and they're so STRONG ... I didn't dare taking Rue yet but weed was great last night for sure
Feeling exhausted and weak today though
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For me, it's not the psychological, but the physical effects: tachycardia, chest oppression with labored breathing, muscle soreness... I can't touch herb until the tail end of the trip.
Yep, it's maybe part of psychedelics potentiation by cannabis too.
Not with DMT, but I entirely fix the speedy heart rate from weed by only using THC/CBD balanced strains and cutting back the THC by blending in CBD Bud.
Wise approach, which tends also to confirm the link between the potentiation of psychedelics and cannabigerol (CBG) component of cannabis. With your home made blend you maybe decrease the part of CBG in the cannabinoïds mix. Cf. Strassman's study on DMT about DMT potentiation by pindolol, a 5-HT1a antagonist. An interesting article on the subject.
I think Strassman writes a little about it in the Spirit Molecule book, I never looked up the compound name when reading the book.
Yes that's what I was talking about, he talks about DMT potentiation by pindolol, which is a beta-blocker and a 5-HT1a antagonist. He described the potentiation mechanism in the book.
In the article I linked above they talk about CBG which is a mild 5-HT1a antagonist, hence the possibility it's (one of) the psychedelics potentiating compound(s) in cannabis.
You are replying to a comment that presents concrete evidence with strong statements backed by nothing. Particularly, the part about moderate amounts reducing risk of clotting being "a lie sponsored by alcohol companies" is a very strong statement for which you are providing no evidence whatsoever. You are not presenting it as a personal opinion, either.
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Usually this would merit only a warning. However, you have displayed that same attitude of strong statements without evidence phrased in an inflammatory way throughout this thread, despite warnings to not do so. So this will be a ban for a week.
Everything can be argued for or against. But not with that attitude. At least not in the Nexus.
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I have noticed for some time now that even very minimal amounts like that found in kombucha for instance can have negative consequences to my health. I try to avoid using ethanol tinctures etc now for that reason. My body does not like any amount of ethanol it would seem. It really disturbs the architecture of sleep for many people…something cannabis is more known for despite all the people who use it for sleep. I know ppl use booze to sleep also I just don’t know how that is sustainable.
My sincere apologies for being MIA when I could have weighed in here earlier! Before I say what I want to say, I want to make it clear that I am in no way glorifying the consumption of alcohol beyond it's intended responsible use for those it works for. We are human beings, we are all different, and all substances effect us in different ways. I have known people close to me that struggled horribly with alcoholism who only drank half of the amount I would drink and I've never once had a problem. We are all just built different.
DM3, the way in which you speak about alcohol leads me to suspect that it has negatively effected you in a personal way, whether it be you or someone close to you. I get it, I do, and I'm sorry if that's the case, but here on the Nexus all substances are open for discussion and OP had a very good question, it's not your job to shut it down and silence discussion, and your replies are all mostly rooted in opinion.
I skimmed through the thread, so my bad if Pandora or someone else linked it, but I actually did a quasi analysis from the effects of DMT + Alcohol and I experimented with it quite a bit. You can find that thread here. A pictorial analysis on color densities under the effects of DMT+Alcohol
OK anyways...
Is it safe? Well, combining alcohol with other substances is generally frowned upon, as it opens up more risk when it comes to synergies. For instance, Ketamine and Alcohol is well know synergy that can be fatal at high doses, and is widely discouraged even at small doses. This too is something I've experimented with as I have a very high tolerance for alcohol. Obviously some wine and cannabis isn't really an issue, and there are plenty of other examples as well.
Some of these synergies shown here will be contested by others, but it's a decent general guide for quick checking your substance combinations. DMT + Alcohol is considered low risk, but even if it IS safe the question should be... should you?
As for DMT, I get a little nervous before a blast off which is completely normal. I've smoked DMT completely sober many times, but my preferred method is to have a nice cocktail like a Mai Tai, Azalea, Last Word, Aviation etc that has around 2oz of 40% alcohol before blasting off that's enough for a buzz and also tastes delicious. When smoking DMT on a small buzz like this, I barely notice the synergy at all and I feel fine, the alcohol has never impeded my trip this way.
Now, I have smoked DMT a few times after being nice and drunk, probably after 8 or more drinks or so, idk I never count and but the synergy is impossible not to notice and very much works against you. For one, alcohol is a neuro-suppressant, so being shitfaced and drowzy while laying down during a strong breakthru can be dangerous, you could puke or fall asleep or fall over, the possibilities are endless when you're a psychonaut and a drunkard. Also, it's just not a good trip. The colors are desaturated, the visuals are dulled, and every time I've tried it I've been denied entry by entities that are none too happy with my disrespect in showing up that way. It's been a long time since I've done DMT whilst really drunk like that, as I just don't see the point. It's a waste of DMT.
But a cpl beers? A strong cocktail to take the edge off? I pretty much prefer that 9/10 times now. As @Pandora said, this is something that works for me, and that does not mean that it will work for everyone, nor am I encouraging it in any way. I just wanted to alleviate some concerns here considering I'm a walking poster child for the synergy. Always check how these substances interact with any medications you are taking as well. For my synergy is was strictly a cocktail and a breakthrough dose of spice, nothing more, nothing less. In my experience, it's completely safe for me.
This whole alcohol is poison thing has grown out of control. I'm very happy that people are paying more attention and finding a renewed focus on health and wellness but these Huberman podcaster types that vilify the social lubricant our species has been prosperously enjoying for tens of thousands of years drive me crazy. I've heard one of these guys say a glass of wine with dinner is now terrible for you. Get outta here!
Again, not glorifying it, but I really enjoy a good drink, and if I want to use one to help coax myself into a comfortable DMT trip then I'm gonna have myself a nice gin gilmet or a glass of Japanese whiskey on the rocks. I hope this helps. Be safe and drink responsibly lol!
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I'd also like to contribute to this. And again, this is a prime example of how everyone's tolerances are different based on their usage and there genetic predisposition on how these substances effect them, not to mention the timing of consuming said substances whether it be during the come up or during the peak of the latter substance. For me, smoking pot while on LSD or Psilocybin has always been a net negative for me in terms of comfortability or confusion, but smoking pot before a DMT trip or DURING a DMT trip while using the sandwich method I have had zero issues. There are many, many variables that take part in these synergies. A tiny puff before a DMT trip is much different than blazing all night for 2 hours and then smoking DMT on a whim. We have to acknowledge these things when combining substances.
Thank you for your input on this Sofa.
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